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Date:12/29/06
HEADLINE
Emerson to be State Budget Director
QUOTE OF THE DAY
"We always knew these Islamists weren't all they were cracked up to be. And now we are where they used to be, in control of Mogadishu - well, as much as anyone can be in control of Mogadishu." - ABDIRIZAK ADAM HASSAN, chief of staff for the transitional president in Somalia.
http://www.nytimes.com/2006/12/29/world/africa/29somalia.html?th&emc=th
TOP STORY
Emerson to be State Budget Director
Here are portions of two articles from the Attorney General's website about City Council's pay being reduced, not eliminated, prefaced with source announcing Bob Emerson's upcoming appointment as Granholm's new state budget director. He was instrumental in the legal action being filed over council retroactive pay. Is it possible we'll see great changes in the state's budget? Emerson to become state budget director
By Melissa Burden mburden@flintjournal.com • 810.766.6316 Excerpt: Term-limited state Sen. Bob Emerson, D-Flint, will have a major new job in Lansing come January. Emerson will be appointed Gov. Jennifer Granholm’s next budget director, the governor’s office said today. See complete story in Friday's Flint Journal http://www.mlive.com/newslogs/fljournal/index.ssf?/mtlogs/mlive_flintjournalextra/archives/2006_12.html#219703
* * * http://www.michigan.gov/ag/0,1607,7-164-34739_34811-98650--,00.html
Cox Files Suit Against Flint for Illegal Pay Raise August 9, 2004 LANSING – Attorney General Mike Cox announced today a lawsuit against the City of Flint, the Mayor of Flint and specific members of the Flint City Council to compel the City Council to repay the more than $235,000 they illegally granted themselves by resolution on July 1, 2004. (snip)
In July 2002, a review team and an Emergency Financial Manager were appointed under the authority of Michigan law to manage the City of Flint’s financial crisis, which amounted to more than $20 million in debt. The Emergency Financial Manager took a number of actions to cure and correct the city’s financial condition, including four reductions in pay and benefits to members of the Flint City Council.
On July 1, 2004, the City Council approved by a 7-0 vote a resolution introduced by Donald J. Williamson, Mayor of the City of Flint, to grant themselves more than $235,000 in retroactive back pay and benefits that they collectively lost under the tenure of the Emergency Financial Manager, Ed Kurtz. The question was raised by State Senator Bob Emerson (D-Flint) and posed to the Attorney General regarding the legality of the resolution. Cox contends that their actions are illegal. (snip) * * * *
http://www.michigan.gov/ag/0,1607,7-164-34739_34811-118408--,00.html
Cox Wins Flint Illegal Pay Raise Lawsuit May 19, 2005 LANSING - Attorney General Mike Cox announced today that members of the Flint City Council must return to the city treasury more than $235,000 in illegal pay raises they granted themselves in 2004. On Wednesday, an Ingham County Circuit Court judge declared the raises violated the Michigan Constitution. (snip) . . .
As part of his plan to return the city to financial stability, Kurtz reduced the pay for City Council members. However, once the situation stabilized, Kurtz reinstated members’ pay to 95% of pre-emergency levels. Kurtz’s tenure ended on June 30, 2004. Less than 24 hours later, on July 1, the City Council voted 7-0 to grant themselves more than $235,000 in retroactive pay and benefits. Referred to the Attorney General’s Office by Senator Bob Emerson (D-Flint), Cox filed suit on August 9, 2004.
Ingham County Circuit Court Judge Joyce Draganchuk agreed with Cox that the City Council’s actions violated Article 11, Section 3 of the Michigan Constitution, which bars retroactive pay raises by elected officials. (snip)
posted to Flint Talk by 00SL2
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NATION
F.D.A. Tentatively Declares Food From Cloned Animals to Be Safe By ANDREW POLLACK and ANDREW MARTIN The finding could make the U.S. the first country to allow products from cloned livestock to be sold in grocery stores. http://www.nytimes.com/2006/12/29/business/29fda.html?th&emc=th
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Bush Considers Up to 20,000 More Troops for Iraq By DAVID S. CLOUD and JEFF ZELENY The increase would be accomplished in part by delaying the departure of two Marine regiments. http://www.nytimes.com/2006/12/29/world/middleeast/29prexy.html?th&emc=th
After meeting with his top military and diplomatic advisers at his Texas ranch, Mr. Bush said his administration was making "good progress" in fashioning a revised Iraq strategy. But he said he intended to consult with Congress when it convenes next week before presenting his plan to the nation.
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MICHIGAN
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Money Judgment Interest Rate, effective July 1, 2006 is 5.815%,
including the statutory 1%
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Issues: Dismissal of the plaintiff’s employment discrimination complaint and entry of an order of settlement; MCR 2.507(H); Mikonczyk v. Detroit Newspapers, Inc.; Whether the settlement agreement placed on the record in open court was only a tentative agreement; Whether the order of settlement contained terms not specifically agreed on by the parties
Court: Michigan Court of Appeals (Unpublished)
Case Name: Anderson v. Wayne County Cmty. Coll.
e-Journal Number: 34244
Judge(s): Per Curiam – Wilder, Kelly, and Borrello
Concluding comparison of the written settlement agreement to the settlement terms specified on the record in open court verified agreement on most of the terms, the court held the parties agreed to the material terms of the agreement and affirmed the trial court’s decision to enforce the agreement. Plaintiff sued the defendant alleging racial discrimination, harassment, and retaliation in violation of the CRA.
The trial court engaged the parties in a settlement conference, during which they negotiated and reached a settlement agreement. However, plaintiff later filed objections to the written settlement agreement, asserting it contained items not part of the agreement and matters exceeding what was discussed on the record. The court concluded while plaintiff initially balked at the terms of the proposed agreement, the transcript indicated his ultimate concurrence with most of the terms subsequently reduced to writing by defendant.
The trial court gave plaintiff ample opportunity to refuse the settlement agreement in open court. Most significantly, when the trial court asked him whether he wished the trial court to accept the agreement as presented, plaintiff answered with an unequivocal "yes." The fact the terms of the agreement were reviewed and discussed repeatedly with plaintiff during the proceedings, together with his unequivocal acceptance, led to the conclusion the trial court did not err in approving the settlement agreement and dismissing the complaint.
Affirmed but remanded for the trial court to strike two immaterial provisions in the agreement to which plaintiff did not agree on the record.
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COMPARE COVERAGE
SAGINAW (WJRT) - (12/28/06)--A familiar face in Saginaw's city government says her career will come to a close next year.
Current Mayor Pro Tem Wilmer Jones Ham says she will not run for re-election when her term ends next November.
She has spent 14 years on the council and in 2001 was elected by the council as the city's first female mayor.
"She has served this community well, and she has done it with great love and affection for the city and its citizens," said Mayor Carol Cottrel.
This past spring investigators named Ham a person of interest in an investigation of a fire that destroyed her Mercedes while sitting in her driveway.
Midland County Prosecutor Michael Carpenter says there will be no ruling in the case until after the first of the year.
http://abclocal.go.com/wjrt/story?section=local&id=4888755
(TV-5) -- Saginaw Mayor Pro-tem Wilmer Jones Ham says she will not seek re-election. The Mayor Pro-tem has several reasons why she won't seek re-election, and things certainly won't be the same without Ham in office.
For 14 years, Wilmer Jones Ham has served on the Saginaw City Council. She was Mayor back in 2004 when she led the victory parade celebrating the Detroit Pistons' World Championship. Her son, Darvin, was on that team.
Ham declined an on-camera interview, saying she's dealing with a personal family issue. She did tell TV-5, "I have had the cooperation of the city. Now it's time to turn it over to younger people. It has been a blessed experience."
Ham has been surrounded by controversy since last year. She was named as a "person of interest" in the burning of her own vehicle, but she was never charged.
http://www.wnem.com/Global/story.asp?S=5865903&nav=7k75
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Backers laud councilwoman
Thursday, December 28, 2006
JOE SNAPPERTHE SAGINAW NEWS
Amid bad publicity for Saginaw City Hall and a lengthy criminal probe into the burning of her car, Mayor Pro Tem Wilmer Jones Ham has renewed her pledge not to run for the City Council in 2007.
"I've had 14 years on the council," Ham said during Wednesday's council session. "It's time to get the young people involved."
Ham's comments came after two residents criticized what they said were unfair and untrue media portrayals of Ham, a former mayor. A pastor called some of the reports "character assassination."
Last spring, prosecutors called Ham a "person of interest" in an investigation into a fire that destroyed her Mercedes in her home's driveway. But the probe has stalled after a change of jurisdiction to Midland County.
In addition, depositions filed as part of former City Manager Cecil A. Collins Jr.'s lawsuit against the city raised an allegation that Ham's vote was
for sale
on a motion to fire Collins
in exchange for a
contribution to her
student scholarship fund.
Ham has declined comment on the allegation. A judge on Dec. 21 threw out the lawsuit, in which Collins alleged conspiracy and breach of contract. Collins' lawyer has not said if he will appeal the decision.
On Wednesday, Ham backer Audrey Beatty said the mayor pro tem deserved only support during her "ordeal." Listing Ham's long roster of community involvement, Beatty said Ham is "a positive force toward the development of Saginaw."
Without singling out any media outlets, the Rev. Cirven D. Merrill assailed recent coverage of City Hall and assured Ham that he and the community he said he represents are in her corner.
"The city of Saginaw and especially the black community are appalled and outraged at all of the negative publicity," said Merrill, pastor of Greater Works Ministries, 1014 Sears. "We do not believe most of that stuff."
Merrill stopped short of specifying the allegations to which he was alluding.
"We know (Ham) to be a pillar in the community and a beacon of light," he said.
Ham, who turns 57 on Jan. 9, has said more than once in the past that this term was her last.
After the meeting, Ham said she finalized her decision about a year ago, stressing it was time for younger blood at the council table.
She also said she wants to prepare for her May wedding to Saginaw resident Curtis McZee, a deacon at Ham's church, Tabernacle Missionary Baptist Church, 810 Cathay in Saginaw, rather than hit the campaign trial.
"I've got to get ready for my hubby," Ham said. v
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GENESEE AND FLINT AREA
In what may be one of the most unusual and controversial murder cases in the Flint area this year, a Genesee County district judge ruled Wednesday that a young woman who stabbed the man who was abusing her mother must be bound over to circuit court on an open charge of murder.
But the judge made clear that he didn't like ordering that.
"I feel very badly for her," said Mt. Morris District Judge Larry Stecco, in his ruling on the murder charge against Tanjermeeka M. Jones, 20, of Genesee Township. "I have no alternative but to bind over (the case) as charged."
http://www.mlive.com/news/fljournal/index.ssf?/base/news-41/1167322929110950.xml&coll=5
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FLINT INSTITUTIONS AND NEIGHBORHOOD GROUPS
Dear neighbors,
We have received numerous complaints about trees being cut down along Gilkey Creek. One neighbor told us he called Bob Cook, Director of Parks and Recreation for the City of Flint, and that Mr. Cook said the College Cultural Neighborhood Association supports the cutting. Let us assure you, no elected CCNA officer has lent support to this. Mike called Mr. Cook to ask about the project, and Mr. Cook said he had not heard any negative feedback about the cutting. So we are asking you to call his office and ask him and his crew to stop.
I was thinking those banks are eroded enough without cutting out the small trees that hold soil in place, but to be sure, I call Brent Nickola at UM-Flint's Center for Applied Environmental Research. Brent worked on the Gilkey Creek Watershed Management Plan for the Michigan Department of Environmental Quality. He said the UM-F is in the process of recommending to MDEQ that vegetation along the banks of the Gilkey be RESTORED – not removed. Removing live stream bank vegetation affects water quality negatively.
Mike and I both looked at the cutting near Pierce School and we saw many small undiseased trees cut at the base. I'm thinking some well-meaning person may have thought it would be nice to visually open up the sign and entrance of the golf course and community center. The problem with this is that when it rains, there is a surge in water flow. Frequently the water rises to the top of the banks.
Fast-moving water gushes through the banks, and with no live roots to hold the banks in place, the banks will erode and become more unstable. As they erode the water becomes more silty. This harms water quality, negatively impacting fish and wildlife downstream.
Proponents of cutting may point to last year's clearing of brush on the riverbanks at UMF campus to visually open up the view of the river. Keep in mind, the hydrologic forces are very different there because of the dams.
Surges in flow are regulated, whereas the Gilkey is not. Additionally, we have received numerous calls from people who are quite worried about the wild woody area south of the creek, and do not want it compromised. (Not every area has to look like a groomed park.)
We appreciate many of the things Mr. Cook’s department has done for our community, such as removing dead trees that have fallen into the creek. We should let him know this, but also make it clear when we do not want our neighborhood’s health and beauty compromised.
Please call him today at 691-9345, and ask him to STOP THE CUTTING. The creek is not a park, and we should not attempt to create park-like conditions along the creek. Removing obviously dead trees from the creek is acceptable. Then please drop a line to me to let me know how it went. Thanks for taking care of your part of the earth.
Sherry Hayden" ccnaflint@sbcglobal.net
GUEST EDITORIAL
Under-the-Rug Oversight The American public deserves a fuller and more open review of the National Security Agency's illegal eavesdropping program than it has been getting from its toothless watchdog.
http://www.nytimes.com/2006/12/29/opinion/29fri3.html?th&emc=th
Thus wags the tail of a watchdog with neither bark nor bite.
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From Ted Jankowski
http://www.flinttalk.com/post-7227.html#7227
In response to a GOOD MORNING FLINT demand that the Flint City Council give back the money the Attorney General said they took illegally Ted said:
Now Terry,
WHy do you repeat something that you and I both know isn't true! The Council members didn't award themselves anything. You and I both know what Kurtz actually did! Whose budget he actually used! Who it was that brought the back pay to the council! If 80,000 could open a senior center I'm sure 140,000 paid to a journal carrier could have open a senior center and a community center! Sure I love looking at things that way!
How long did the council go without pay? Take he amount they received and divide it by the number of months they didn't receive thier slary. Doesn't seem to big anymore does it? Yet they continued on! They voted to receive thier RIGHTFUL pay!
How much effort would you put in even if someone told you, "You have to work 6 months to a year without pay?" They didn't run the city out of Money! When they figured out that there was something wrong, they BEGGED the state to step in. We both know what power they actually and how they get their information about the budget. The same way this new council does. Through the Mayor's office! Oh and I do firmly believe a workman is worthy of his hire. If it hadn't been for that former council going to the State.
We would probably just now be going into a State takeover. (but this last statement is only conjecture).
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9761. ED KOCH (DEMOCRAT) by
Bush08, 12/28/06 23:14 ET
President George W. Bush, vilified by many, supported by some, is a hero to me.
Why do I say that? It's not because I agree with the President's domestic agenda. It's not because I think he's done a perfect job in the White House.
George Bush is a hero to me because he has courage. The President does what he believes to be in the best interest of the United States. He sticks with his beliefs, no matter how intense the criticism and invective that are directed against him every day.
The enormous defeat President Bush suffered with the loss of both Houses of Congress has not caused him to retreat from his position that the U.S. alone now stands between a radical Islamic takeover of many of the world’s governments in the next 30 or more years. If that takeover occurs, we will suffer an enslavement that will threaten our personal freedoms and take much of the world back into the Dark Ages.
Our major ally in this war against the forces of darkness, Great Britain, is still being led by an outstanding prime minister, Tony Blair. However, Blair will soon be set out to pasture, which means Great Britain will leave our side and join France, Germany, Spain and other countries that foolishly believe they can tame the wolf at the door and convert it into a domestic pet that will live in peace with them.
These dreamers naively believe that if we feed the wolves what they demand, they will go away. But that won’t happen. Appeasement never works. The wolves always come back for more and more, and when we have nothing left to give, they come for us. Thank you ED.
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Date: 12/28/06
HEADLINE
Where is our money!
The Flint City Council has ripped us off!
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QUOTE OF THE DAY
"I have come to the conclusion that this is no longer America's war in Iraq, but the Iraqi civil war where America is fighting." - MAJ. WILLIAM VOORHIES, who is training Iraqi security forces.
http://www.nytimes.com/2006/12/28/world/middleeast/28sectarian.html?th&emc=th
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(TV-5) -- Four former Flint City Council members may be heading to court to turn over salaries they earned after the state took over the city's finances.
The council members awarded themselves back pay in 2004 after the Emergency Financial Manager cut that out of the budget. Michigan Attorney General Mike Cox has given the four until December 27th to pay back the money.
Only one of the members has repaided the money. The remaining council memebers are disputing the amount they owe.
According to the Flint Journal, only one councilman has returned the money. The others still owe between 16 and 17 thousand dollars each.
http://www.wnem.com/Global/story.asp?S=5858693
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FLINT (WJRT) - (12/18/06)--The city of Flint says it is ready to collect more than $80,000 from several current and previous City Council members.
Nearly two years after an Ingham County judge ordered members of council to repay money they awarded themselves, Monday night the city of Flint said at least five council members have not paid up.
Late Monday afternoon, the mayor's office released five letters from the Michigan Attorney General's Office that were sent to those council members, telling them they have until Wednesday to pay back the money.
According to the letters, current Councilman Scott Kincaid owes more than $17,800. Carolyn Sims owes just over $16,800.
Former Councilman Johnnie Coleman owes over $17,500. Former Councilman Ed Taylor owed nearly $18,000. And former Councilman Mark Horrigan owes just over $16,600.
The mayor's office says that it will go after the money if it is not paid by the Wednesday deadline.
This all stems from a resolution passed by the council in 2004 to reinstate more than a quarter of a million dollars in back pay just one day after the state take over of the city ended.
Council's salaries had been cut by former Emergency Financial Manager Ed Kurtz.
The council claimed Kurtz had no authority to do it, but after several court hearings a judge ruled the money had to be paid back.
Now the city says it is going to uphold the current and former council members to the ruling.
We spoke to all five of the current and former council members by phone Monday afternoon. Coleman says he has not received a letter.
Sims and Horrigan declined to comment. Taylor says he knows nothing about the judgment. Kincaid says he received a letter and plans on sending in a check for the full amount by Wednesday.
http://abclocal.go.com/wjrt/story?section=local&id=4862901
INTERNATIONAL
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The New Threat to Europe Energy is an effective weapon. By JACKSON DIEHL Dec 28 2006
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Malnutrition Is Cheating Its Survivors, and Africa's Future By MICHAEL WINES Most of Ethiopia's malnourished children do not die. Instead, they grow up stunted and sickly, weaklings in a land that runs on manual labor. http://www.nytimes.com/2006/12/28/world/africa/28malnutrition.html?th&emc=th
NATION
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Low-Key Services Planned in D.C. And Michigan for Modest President (By Steve Vogel, The Washington Post)
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Automaker Riding The Hip Parade The latest marketing campaign by Ford offers seats to a Beyonce Knowles concert in Mexico and sponsors a Web site where the R&B superstar belts love songs in Spanish. The face staring out from Ford print ads is Korean heartthrob Ahn Jae Wook, with the sales pitch written in Chinese. (By Sholnn Freeman, The Washington Post
GUEST EDITORIAL
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Cross Country BY THOMAS J. BRAY Not-so-Big Labor eyes the Democratic Congress.12:01 a.m. EST
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Ok Explain then why he would blow so much off the Budget on Hiring Officers that can't do anything? WOuldn't it have made more sense to open the Jail rather than hire more officers that cannot arrest criminals? WOuldn't it have made more sense to Open the Jail rather than Pay City WOrkers to sit at home and do nothing? Or Pay a Journal Carrier 140.000 to deliver papers to City Hall? Or pay Sgts not to drive their police Vehicles? It just seems to me (And I'm no rocket scientist) That Actually having a place to put criminals. Instead of having a policy of Catch and release. WOuld make more sense. If you cannot arrest criminals? How many officers does it take to reduce crime? 100? 1000? 2000? I'm sorry. But it's commonsense to me. That without having the city jail open. The number of Officers we had in 2003 was more than what was needed to fight and reduce crime in Flint. THat's a Fact! Not my opinion! It was done. He has hired 30 officers in three years and crime continues to rise. There are so many reasons why crime is going up. "Not enough officers" isn't one of them.
Ted Jankowski talking about the mayor of Flint.
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9758. Swamicator--Mt Morris by
GoWings2, 12/27/06 21:36 ET
is a good place to live. Someone told me today that there are only Three requirements to do so: 1. You must have a pony tail 2. You must have no teeth 3. You must own a pit bull. This applies to both males and female residents
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QUOTE OF THE DAY
RANCHO MIRAGE, Calif. - Former President Gerald R. Ford, who declared "Our long national nightmare is over" as he replaced Richard Nixon but may have doomed his own chances of election by pardoning his disgraced predecessor, has died. He was 93.
INTERNATIONAL
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Iran Is Seeking More Influence in Afghanistan By DAVID ROHDE Iran is investing in Afghanistan as part of a bigger drive to spread its influence and ideas farther across the Middle East. http://www.nytimes.com/2006/12/27/world/asia/27afghan.ready.html?th&emc=th
NATION
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(AP) -- AUBURN HILLS, Mich. (AP) - DaimlerChrysler has hired former F-B-I chief Louis Freeh to help in its internal investigation of bribery allegations. Freeh is a member of the Gavel Consulting Group, which consists of former federal judges. Meanwhile, DaimlerChrysler says it's continuing to cooperate with two federal investigations. The S-E-C opened an inquiry in 2004 after a worker said he was fired for complaining that the company was using secret bank accounts to bribe government officials. DaimlerChrysler a year later acknowledged that the Justice Department was investigating whether senior executives knew the company had paid bribes to foreign officials.
http://www.nbc25.net/news/news_story.aspx?id=24161
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Biden to Fight Iraq Troop Buildup Senator Plans Hearings That He Hopes Will Influence U.S. Strategy (By Walter Pincus, The Washington Post)
MICHIGAN
-Saving Schools
A SOLUTION: Efficiency could be the key to survival
Small districts may pave way
December 27, 2006
Detroit Free Press
Consolidating services under intermediate school districts, while retaining local control of academics, may be the only way tiny school districts are going to survive, said State Superintendent Mike Flanigan.
"There's an argument for small school districts. They're a large part of Americana that I think works very well," Flanigan said. "Why would you want to blow that up? Why not just be more efficient?"
But these tiny districts' experiments in consortiums and cost cutting could have statewide implications. Michigan faces a $3-billion budget deficit, and it's almost certain that schools across the state will continue to tighten their budgets in the near future.
The small districts could be paving the way for larger districts to survive in tough economic times.
http://www.freep.com/apps/pbcs.dll/article?AID=/20061227/NEWS06/612270384
-FIEGER WINS ONE
Detroit Free Press
Southfield lawyer Geoffrey Fieger scored a point in his feud with the state Supreme Court on Tuesday when a federal court ruled he can continue his efforts to disqualify certain justices he claims are biased against him from hearing his cases.
The 6th U.S. Circuit Court of Appeals in Cincinnati said Fieger can challenge Michigan's rules for determining when a justice should be disqualified from hearing cases -- rules he has called unconstitutional. He has said his motions to have justices removed from cases were never heard by an impartial arbiter but instead decided by the justices themselves.
http://www.freep.com/apps/pbcs.dll/article?AID=/20061227/NEWS03/612270331
-How many of our neighbors are dying?
SAGINAW (WJRT) - (12/26/06)--The year 2006 got off to a violent start in the city of Saginaw with a number of shootings right after the first of the year.
Crime was also a big topic for residents to vote on as three separate crime related millages were put before voters.
Jimahle Donald, 17, was in the wrong in place at the wrong time when he was shot to death Jan. 3. It was Saginaw county's first homicide of 2006, and one of several shootings in the city of Saginaw in the month of January.
But the killing didn't stop, and violence has been on the rise in the entire county for the last few years.
In 2005, there were 25 murders compared with 11 in 2001, and that prompted a push for a Saginaw County millage which would have added more than 50 new officers countywide.
It would be one of three proposals city and county residents would vote on in 2006 when it came to public safety.
In May, the city asked voters to save 26 police positions and bring back five laid-off officers and save 25 firefighting jobs as well.
The result was a resounding win, and boosted the morale at the Saginaw City Police Department, which has seen its staff cut in half because of budget problems over the last three years.
Momentum was felt when the Saginaw County No Boundaries proposal went before voters in August. It went down to defeat by a big margin.
That defeat also meant 14 sheriff's deputies could lose their job at the beginning of 2007, so two new proposals were put before county voters in November -- one to save the 14 jobs; another to add seven new positions.
The 14 jobs were saved, but again, residents said no to adding any police presence.
With a few days to go, Saginaw County will end the year with at least 26 homicides -- one more than in 2005 -- so expect to hear more about the cost of crime fighting in 2007.
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(TV-5) -- Four former Flint City Council members may be heading to court to turn over salaries they earned after the state took over the city's finances.
The council members awarded themselves back pay in 2004 after the Emergency Financial Manager cut that out of the budget. Michigan Attorney General Mike Cox has given the four until December 27th to pay back the money. Several council people are disputing the amount they owe.
According to the Flint Journal, only one councilman has returned the money. The others still owe between 16 and 17 thousand dollars each.
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-This place has become the proverbial 21st C small town coffee shop of old, where the regulars gathered round to "chew the fat" and discuss the affairs of the day. The topics inevitably focus on local issues as those tend to affect everyone that gathers here, the same. Not that state, national & international events also aren't important, but there are so many more parties involved in those issues. But Flint, and immediate surroundings is our purview. So after a while, we identify with, even if we don't always agree with, the "regulars" [read registered and regularly posting members]. Contrast that with "guests". They can be anyone and everyone behind that "name" on the post. Quite possibly several people using the same guest name at different times. You really don't know for certain who you are responding to. Nor therefore, do you really know if what they post is what they believe much less factual. Whereas, when Adam, Al G, Kathy Ellwood, mama bear, Rap or Ted et al, post, you know who's there, you know where they are coming from, that what they post is what they think, and not just a troll to provoke reactions. So, yeah, I'm with you Roscoe. I think I'm going to ignore "guest" posts from this point on.
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9748. Serious question for Genesee county by
Swamicator, 12/26/06 9:04 ET
Residents.
I live in N. Oakland County and I am selling my home. I have a unique career and it makes no difference where I live.
I grew up in the Flint area and friends that still reside there are attempting to sell me on moving back. Personally, I see no reason to live in Genesee County, given the demise of Flint area I saw coming over 20 years ago.
So the question is this...real estate prices aside, give me some good reasons to live in this area.
Thanks in advance for your responses.
9748.2. swamicator moving by
, 12/26/06 10:02 ET Re: Serious question for Genesee county by Swamicator, 12/26/06
The clio area has a few good reasons to come here despite our local fighting which all communitys have1. good housing stock2. fair housing prices3. a good school system4. good retail growth5. low crime rate6. Great park system7. And some very fine people
9748.3.1. If I remember correctly, by
, 12/26/06 19:27 ET Re: Serious question for Genesee county by Swamicator, 12/26/06
Linden was the smallest of all Metro league schools. Clio is probably 2nd smallest. East/West has close to 2600 students combined. And Creek is still big but Oxford and Brandon are big schools compared to the others. And Holly and Fenton are no push-overs when it comes to student enrollment.
-From Flint Talk-Larry
Yes. Terry it is a tough question.
All of the reasons you mentioned are good reasons to stay here is a few more.
Fresh water oil is running out .
But the most precious commodity known to man is fresh water witch we have plenty of. Higher education is plentiful its here for the taking.
Down town is a well kept secret. no crowds no crime and racial diversity. The thing that would set down town flint off as a force. would be wireless Internet and a few well thought out festivals. to compliment or off set the new housing. what would be really awesome is if 4 blocks of saginaw street was set aside as a auto free zone.
No cars at all from just past the hotel going south . more crims, more jazz, more, art and possibly a winter festival of ice sculptures. here is a question that i just wish i could answer or get a workable answer too. how do we turn around the perception of flint. nationally to bring in such things and make them worth while to all aspects of the general public. I'm so close to not responding it seems hopeless some one leed!!!!!!!!!!!!
-From Flint Citizen
As a Realtor who specializes in Flint, Michigan, the biggest problem and/orconcern I hear from potential buyers and sellers is The Flint School District.People don't want to live in Flint because of the sub par quality ofschools.
This comes from people of all ages and races. This hurts propertyvalues,which in turn is less money in the city coffers. Property values in Flint,Michigan are about 40% less than other areas. It is more affordable and somemayeven call it cheap because of the poor schools. If you have poor schools itdoes affect peoples property values.
The bottom line is that if we want Flintto come back, we need a complete overhaul of Flint Community Schools!! Theroot evil of Flint is its poor schools, which in turn creates more crime,less educated people, less jobs, less city funds, less population, lowerproperty values, poor infrastructure etc..
If we can provide a WORLD CLASSeducationfor our kids, people will move to Flint. Until we all come together for thecommon goal of "A World Class Education" for Flint kids, Flint will still bestatus quo.Ryan M. Eashoo
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9748. Serious question for Genesee county by
Swamicator, 12/26/06 9:04 ET
Residents.
I live in N. Oakland County and I am selling my home. I have a unique career and it makes no difference where I live.
I grew up in the Flint area and friends that still reside there are attempting to sell me on moving back. Personally, I see no reason to live in Genesee County, given the demise of Flint area I saw coming over 20 years ago.
So the question is this...real estate prices aside, give me some good reasons to live in this area.
Thanks in advance for your responses.
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Democrats Pledge to Restrain Spending Determined to banish their old tax-and-spend image, Democrats want to shrink the federal deficit, preserve tax cuts for the middle class and challenge the president to raise money for the Iraq war when they take control of Congress next week. But it won't be easy. (By Lori Montgomery, The Washington Post)
-Why We're 'Not Winning'
By Bret Stephens
President Bush startled reporters when he acknowledged in a recent interview that we are "not winning" in Iraq, after long insisting we were. That doesn't go far enough. Even as we are stalemated in Iraq, the gains the administration previously made in Afghanistan, Egypt, Iran, Lebanon and Palestine are steadily being eroded. Maybe it's a case of returning to the mean.
Most people would call it losing.
So was the invasion of Iraq the original sin? Certainly not. What's happening, rather, is that we are suffering the consequences of policy mistakes of relatively recent vintage.
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All of the Flint School District's teachers are highly qualified, according to a district report.
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WHAT'S THE POINT? Why have principals or a police liaison officer in the schools if they don't follow through with punishment if the student does something wrong? I hope they don't wait until someone gets hurt.
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• U-M can be a leader in new path to diversity Legal challenges to Prop 2 insult voters The pile-on of lawsuits against Proposal 2 isn't surprising, but it's mightily discouraging. The pro-affirmative action group By Any Means Necessary - known as BAMN - was the first to jump into the legal fray. Then three universities, including the University of Michigan, filed a motion to delay implementing changes during the current admissions cycle. And last week, the American Civil Liberties Union of Michigan and the NAACP's Detroit Chapter filed their own lawsuit against the proposal.
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9742. It doesn't matter does it? by
mlinton, 12/24/06 23:38 ET
It really doesn't matter if we are pro or anti Bush. Doesn't matter how we feel about Iraq, our government, politics, the crime rate in Flint, Clio or anything else. What matters, on this Holy night, is that we all believe in the same thing. Peace on Earth, good will toward men, the families who love us and make our lives complete, the roofs over our head and the freedom to live in a country where we can express our views and not have to worry about retaliation. What matters is a group of people who aregue daily about their difference of opinions and yet come together during this season of peace and wish each other Merry Christmas. I hope each of you have a wonderful Christmas filled with all the important things in life.
9746. How was your Christmas holiday? by
, 12/26/06 7:01 ET
it was good for us spending time with family and friends. Never mind what Wall Street & Madison ave. tell us that Christmas means spending money but rather a time to be with the people you love. My heart goes out to those families unable to spend time with loved ones fighting wars on foreign lands. I look forward to the new year and pray for better things to come.
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-From Flint Talk
I've offered to set them up a website. Only I personally feel the city should do it. Everything, from the Crime mapping and contacts should be available online. I shouldn't be so derogatory. Only I know more about what is going on with this latest sham, than I can really say pubic ally. Mostly because it's just hearsay. Only it comes from reputable people. I'm just frustrated at this latest cotton candy sale. Lot's of fluffy sweat tasting stuff that won't fill you up, and only make you sick when you get too much. I've just become tired of getting too much!
Ted Jankowski
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wow my Christmas Gift
Well this is some thing I’m sitting in my chair and hear a car pull in the drive way
Its about 10 pm newer pick up ford. I think dam who the hell is this to my surprise a friend from the past. A good old boy truck driver friend of mine who i havent seen in some weeks.hes
got a tray a Tupperware tray that I’m thinking looks like bad news something i just don’t want no part of.
so i beat feet to the back door to greet the guy and he walks in like its Christmas and jolly as any eastsider with a few hundred bucks left after the bills have been paid.
he sits in the laundry room where the office chairs are at and the video shoots usualy take place and starts to talk. and sets the tray on the desk i give the tray a look and ask whats in the tray ?
fudge he says!! fudge i go( really) to my surprise realizing i just judged a book by its cover he smiled i smiled and and had a coffee and a piece of fudge with my friend.
but that’s not all he explains. he says Larry i got a deal for you?
I’m thinking man i cant do nothing I’m unemployed calling Marvin and living by the skin of my tooth waiting for spring or the 1st of the year to get hot on the job trai.l Plus i still owe the guy 3 hundred from a Chevy deal that went bad a year or so ago but its no big deal. He owed me 3 hundred for 2 years once.
But not being rude i listened to his pitch.and ate more fudge and my wife was all ears too!!
How would you like to run a truck for me he says. Huh i reply yeah i enterd into a deal with some yo yo who has a few trucks my friend says. we can take over and they already have a lease!!!!! no gm, no NYC , no hazmat, A grim came over my face like water over a dam. then the print, the fine print
finger print loads from mount Morris to Florida a dozen stops each way omg i think I’m 43 fat and haven’t had to fingerprint loads sense i was 21 especially 12 stops up and down .
Then back to the pitch as my grin subsides. 1000 on 5000 straight pay 10 days out 5 days home. Witch in truck driver reality based terms means 22 days a month work 3200 dollars take home pay. 90% I’m going to do it. but i got to look at this truck first and get the rest of the story. that’s a pretty goodalmost Christmas gift for myself. But better yet my family’s Christmas gift was best Wyatt came home our 5 y/o grand son who was hospitalized with viral meningitis symptoms.
Turns out he just had a bad flu thank god
i hope you all enjoyed your Holiday and have a great new year
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Merry CHRISTmas.......
QUOTE OF THE DAY
Celebrate life and peace..
Mattie
INTERNATIONAL
-Army Capt. Jonathan Bodenhamer, 29,
Sacrifice: War's burden falls on the few Army Capt. Jonathan Bodenhamer, 29, is a heart warming face of the war this Christmas. He has just returned from his second tour of duty in Iraq and is delighting in spending the season with his wife and 7-month-old daughter, enjoying the foods and lifestyle of the America he says he loves and has fought to protect. "It's great, outstanding," Bodenhamer says by phone from Belton, Texas.
The contrast between his Christmas this year and that of the 134,000 troops still in Iraq couldn't be more stark. In Iraq, the troops are surrounded by hardship and a frenzy of violence. Back home, the frenzy is one of excess: shoppers battling for parking spaces in malls, snapping up everything from flat-panel TVs to the latest video games......
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-What does the Pope say on 12/25/06
..urged a solution to conflicts across the world, especially in the Middle East and Africa, in a Christmas Day address that included an appeal for the poor, the exploited, and all those who suffer.
http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20061225/ap_on_re_eu/pope_christmas
-What are Iraqi Christians doing on 12/25/06
BAGHDAD, Iraq - Umm Salam draws her curtains across her windows, then settles into an armchair in a living room festooned with colored lights and a portrait of Jesus on the cross. Her Christmas tree glitters in the corner
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-Can it happen here?
A Widening Gap Erodes Argentina's Egalitarian Image By LARRY ROHTER A growing divide between rich and poor is vexing Argentines and challenging their image of their society. http://www.nytimes.com/2006/12/25/world/americas/25argentina.html?th&emc=th
-Pigs celebrate!
Pork No Longer Paves the Road to Re-election By TIMOTHY EGAN The abuse of earmarks cost two senators and four House members their seats in the last election. http://www.nytimes.com/2006/12/25/washington/25pork.html?th&emc=th
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-Goodbye James Brown
the dynamic, pompadoured "Godfather of Soul," whose rasping vocals and revolutionary rhythms made him a founder of rap, funk and disco as well, died early Monday, his agent said. He was 73. http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20061225/ap_on_en_mu/obit_brown
-Health Care
Shift in Congress Puts Health Care Back on the Table Expecting a Mixed Reaction Across the Aisle, Democrats Plan to Offer Ideas on Drug Cost, Safety (By Christopher Lee, The Washington Post)
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- FROM FLINT TALK
HOLIDAY GREETING FROM THE BIGGIE ENTITY, REACTING TO THE Moore letter
"If the daily death toll continues at this rate, sometime on Christmas Day a U.S. soldier will die in Iraq and, with his or her death, more U.S. troops will have been killed in Iraq than all the people lost on 9/11 (2,973)." frankly the comparison of the two "numbers" is meaningless. go have another egg nog, MM, the no-fat kind. as for me, nothing screams Chrsitmas like watching that cult-classic, "Santa Claus Conquers the Martians" being played nearly non-stop on TV. wow. what were those writers on when they conceived that. And worse, the production values of the movie made the writing seem like Masterpiece Theatre. Perhaps I'll dream of "Santa Claus Conquers the Terrorists" in lieu of visions of sugar plums tonight. Merry Christmas to all, and to all a good night!
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In the paper Mark Perry said that a lot of these millionaires are likely working class people. There are people at GM that can make $100,000 a year. If you invest $10,000 a year for 30 years at 10% return you should have about a 1.8 million dollar nest egg. Even at $5,000 a year for 30 years at 10% you should have $900,000 plus a 100,000 home would put you at a net worth over over 1 million dollars. For being such a big GM area it seems like we should have a lot more millionaires.
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From Talk Back
WHAT GIVES: Swartz Creek School District officials stated that they have only one person in their technology department. Isn't the subcontractor that drives the red IT department van in the technology department? He has been issued an office and a cellphone. It looks like he is a school employee and is part of the IT department.
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Flint
WHAT'S THE POINT? Why have principals or a police liaison officer in the schools if they don't follow through with punishment if the student does something wrong? I hope they don't wait until someone gets hurt.
- Flint
WHAT A WASTE: Brendan Savage's column Holiday Wishes XIII that was in Tuesday's paper made no sense. I never heard of anybody on the list. It was a waste of ink.
- Flint Township
SAD DAY: What has the world come to when you have to pay to see Santa Claus? I can't believe Courtland Center will not let your children see Santa if you do not buy a picture.
- Flint
DREAMING OF GREEN: I'm tired of listening to Channel 12 news and them begging for snow. Everybody does not like snow. I don't care if it ever snows. If they want more snow, why don't they move to Antarctica?
- Flint
REAL PROBLEM: Sheriff Pickell needs to try to find out how all the guns and drugs are coming into Genesee County instead of worrying about what is going on in the Flint School District. And Mr. Leyton needs to stop plea bargaining with these gangsters and prosecuting them for murders, instead of letting them off the hook with a slap on the hand so they won't be out on the street in four years to kill again.
- Flint
I LIKE THAT OLD TIME ... : I heard on NBC News recently that baby boomers like me are the biggest buying force in the industry, more so than teens. And most boomers are buying rock 'n' roll. So can we have fewer reviews on rappers in the Entertainer and have more on our rock 'n' roll heroes?
Swartz Creek
NICE JOB: It was really nice to see the old photos of Clio in the New Lucky's restaurant in
Vienna Township. It would be nice to see more of those around the city of Clio. And kudos to Barb Modrack of The Clio Messenger and The Flint Journal for the article on the photos.
- Grand Blanc
REAL REASON: The reason I don't like GM OnStar is because one, you have to pay extra for the basic system and two, even if you don't subscribe to it, your movements can still be tracked.
- Holly
BAD IDEA: Regarding The Journal's article on mainstreaming special education kids into the general classroom: As someone who has worked as a volunteer in the Flint School District and has seen what happens when these kids get into the general classroom I am very much against it. These kids are very disruptive, screaming, yelling, pounding on things.
- Flint
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Don't link Poplar to Dems
FLINT JOURNAL LETTER TO THE EDITOR
MUNDY TOWNSHIP
THE FLINT JOURNAL FIRST EDITIONMonday, December 25, 2006
JOURNAL READER
I agree with William Henke ["Poplar Dems' Problem," Your Views, Dec. 11, Page A10] in his supposition that Flint Councilwoman Jackie Poplar was guilty of a huge ethical lapse, if not a criminal offense, when she demanded a contribution to her scholarship fund in exchange for her vote in transferring liquor licenses.
However, I don't think Henke's partisanship references are appropriate or necessary. They are divisive as most partisanship finger-pointing is. Whatever party, this woman is dead-on guilty and she knows it. Her self-defense is antagonistic and inflammatory as well. She is supposed to be a role model for her constituents who do not live in the "silver slipper" as she referred to wealthier zones in the area.
Ironically and sadly enough, the poor people that Poplar represents are often those most in need of role models exhibiting integrity and honor.
Poplar is teaching her people that the ends justify the means, regardless of ethics or rules. What a leader, what a role model.
Julie K. Clark
Mundy Township
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-NERD ALERT
Flaws Are Detected in Microsoft's Vista By JOHN MARKOFF Researchers and hackers have found potentially serious flaws in Microsoft's new Windows Vista operating system. http://www.nytimes.com/2006/12/25/technology/25vista.html?th&emc=th
-MICHAEL MOORE ALERT
Some Christmas Pudding from Michael Moore
December 24, 2006
Dear friends,
What better way to get the Christmas dinner conversation going than with some fun facts!
This is the first of THREE Christmases left under President George W. Bush. THREE.
Ok, that's not too cheery. Let me try again.
If the daily death toll continues at this rate, sometime on Christmas Day a U.S. soldier will die in Iraq and, with his or her death, more U.S. troops will have been killed in Iraq than all the people lost on 9/11 (2,973).
On second thought, skip the politics for a day and just enjoy the pie.
Merry Christmas to each of you, and peace on earth, wherever we Americans have dropped in.
Yours,Michael Moorehttp://www2.blogger.com/ym/Compose?To=mmflint@aol.comhttp://www.michaelmoore.com/
see biggie response above
- ON THIS DAY
On Dec. 25, 1991, Soviet President Mikhail S. Gorbachev went on TV to announce his resignation as the eighth and final leader of a Communist superpower that had already gone out of existence.
http://www.nytimes.com/learning/general/onthisday/20061225.html
-GUEST EDITORIAL
Christmas "AND IT CAME to pass in those days, that there went out a decree from Caesar Augustus that all the world should be taxed." So begins the Christmas story in the Gospel of Luke. There's some historical dispute about whether such a decree was issued around that time, but let that pass, too. It's an important part of the story now, a story not just of divinity, as it's seen by Christians, but of humanity -- and for all of us.... (The Washington Post)
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"Nothing happened to the pay gap from the mid-1950s to the late '70s. Then the '80s stood out as a period of sharp increases in women's pay. And it's much less impressive after that." - FRANCINE D. BLAU, a Cornell economist, on gender differences in pay. http://www.nytimes.com/2006/12/24/business/24gap.html?th&emc=th
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Clinton, Obama Clearing The Field Sen. Hillary Rodham Clinton (D-N.Y.) and Sen. Barack Obama (D-Ill.), trading on star power, the capacity to raise tens of millions of dollars with relative ease and an ability to dominate media attention, are rewriting the script of the 2008 Democratic presidential campaign, driving potential rivals...
"The Democrats would dearly love to elect the first woman or black president. Given that, it's going to be tough to run an insurgent campaign against these people."
Democratic strategist Anita Dunn cautioned against assumptions that the Democratic race is largely going to be a contest among Clinton, Obama and Edwards, who leads the polls in Iowa.
"One of the reasons for elections is that you don't know at this point how things are going to play out," she said. "History teaches us that the front-runners usually win the nomination, but front-runners often stumble -- and that gives an opportunity to someone who is well positioned."
(By Dan Balz, The Washington Post)
Testing the Waters, Obama Tests His Own Limits By JEFF ZELENY Senator Barack Obama's aides wonder if he can meet lofty expectations, which have elevated him beyond a politician's normal realm.
http://www.nytimes.com/2006/12/24/washington/24obama.html?th&emc=th
MICHIGAN
-Yes schools can save the children.
Can we create a different system to raise reading, critical thinking and self-esteem for poor and minority children? The Ann Arbor schools and the Family Learning Institute give a resounding YES!
http://www.mlive.com/columns/aanews/index.ssf?/base/news-0/1166802008173640.xml&coll=2
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University of Michigan Study on Teen Drug Use
Posted: Thursday, December 28, 2006 at 5:25 PM
(AP) -- WASHINGTON (AP) - Fewer teenagers are using illegal drugs and alcohol, but a new government survey says they may be abusing legal drugs instead. The National Institute on Drug Abuse has released its annual survey, and the findings offer a mix of good news and bad.
It finds a small but growing number of teens are popping prescription painkillers like OxyContin and Vicodin as well as stimulants such as Ritalin. Over-the-counter medicines like cough syrup are also being abused, with one in 14 high school seniors saying they used cold medicine to get high "fairly recently." The study was conducted by the University of Michigan.
The National Institute on Drug Abuse:
http://www.nida.nih.gov/NIDAHome.html
http://www.nbc25.net/news/news_story.aspx?id=23997
GENESEE AND FLINT AREA
-CHRIS MARTIN
Chris Martin is currently receiving $1077. PER WEEK for 40 hrs through a grant with Flint schools as a parent program coordinator. Most parent faciltators get 15 hrs per wk. at a much lower rate- title I funds. He may or may not still be an appointee of the Mayor making a large amount. Was appointed to the water dept. at first then at Haskell. Don't know if he is still on city payroll. I have never distrusted a person so much in all my days. I call him CANCER- as I am a survivor of cancer you may start to understand the depth of my watchfullness for him to rear his ugly head and cause chaos. Nuff said, RAP
http://www.flinttalk.com/post-6935.html#6935
-HERBERT CLEAVES
9733. City of Flint Holiday Fun by
winkerbean, 12/23/06 22:21 ET
Herb Cleaves sits at home while on the clock and banks cash from city taxpayers. Way to go City "Security" monitor. Merry Christmas!!
http://www.mlive.com/forums/flint/index.ssf
-Bell
It surprises me with All of these enlightened & All knowing minds noonehas responded to the message marked Good Read. From Bell@umich.edu
see his post:
http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Flintcitizen/message/615
-SANTA
(TV-5) -- A Christmas Grinch stole it but now a local Santa has a new suit. Schaeffer and Bierlein Automotive teamed up with Bronner's Christmas store to give Tim Dietzel a brand new Santa suit.
Dietzel said someone stole the suit on December 21st, along with several gift cards, right out of his car while he was shopping at the Fashion Square Mall. He found the top of the Jeep's door pried open and his $400 Santa suit gone. All the thief left were his candy canes.
http://www.wnem.com/Global/story.asp?S=5851084&nav=7k75
-FOOD YOU NEED TO KNOW
Mr. Food Recipes-Poinsettia Cookies
Makes about 3 dozen
3/4 cup (1-1/2 sticks) butter, softened
3/4 cup sugar
1 egg
2 tablespoons water
1 teaspoon vanilla extract
2-1/2 cups all-purpose flour
1 teaspoon baking powder
1/4 teaspoon salt
1 cup butterscotch chips, divided
1/2 cup sweetened flaked coconut
1 (4-ounce) container red candied cherries
1. Preheat the oven to 350EF.
2. In a large bowl, with an electric mixer, cream together the butter, sugar, egg, water, and vanilla until well blended. Gradually add the fl our, baking powder, and salt until well combined.
3. Stir in 3/4 cup butterscotch chips and the coconut. Cover and chill for 1 hour.
4. Cut the candied cherries in half, and cut each half into three slices.
5. Shape the dough into 1-inch balls and place on ungreased baking sheets. Flatten each ball and place a butterscotch chip in the center of each. Arrange 5 cherry slices in a circular pattern around each butterscotch chip to resemble the pattern of a poinsettia.
6. Bake for 10 to 12 minutes, or until the cookies are firm but not brown. Cool the cookies for about 1 minute on the baking sheets then transfer them to wire racks to cool completely.
http://abclocal.go.com/wjrt/story?section=mrfood&id=4821571
-Flint Truancy
Why do we have to raise other peoples kids. Hold the hole family accountable. We are in a
shameless society. You cannot shame the shameless into taking care of your families. The poor people have to meet us half way. There are no excuses.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KBQqHgdM2fQ
-What is the Laundry Room?
"The Laundry Room" talk show, of YouTube fame, gears up for its hour-long 2006 Year End Special featuring a viewer-initiated question and answer session with a panel of 2007 Flint Michigan mayoral candidates, council members, and other prominent guests.
FLINT, MI (December 21, 2006) – FlintTalk.com, Flint, Michigan’s
growing public discussion forum, announces the 2006 "Laundry Room Year-End Special
" hosted by "Larry & John."
The show will be directed by Shawn Chittle of New York-based production
company Roscoe Van Zandt Films, and will be assisted by Steve Myers,
a producer at The Laundry Room and founder of Flinttalk.com
The show will open with folk singer Jud Caswell from Brunswick, Maine
and will feature an entertaining, packed show with skits, street
interviews, interviews with political figures, local activists and
talk radio personalities.
The highlight of the year-end show will be exclusive interviews with
emerging 2007 Flint mayoral candidates, some of which are making their
debut appearances in major media.
The show is scheduled for taping in late December at The Lunch Studio,
a downtown Flint cafe and meeting place. The show will air on YouTube
and released on limited edition DVD.
"Larry" Crucetti, a truck driver, and "John" Wilson, a professional
student at Michigan State University, found themselves natural talk
show hosts and facilitators. Larry provides on-the-spot direction and
structure, including his his brazen, from-the-hip opinions, while John
provides perspective from the college educated demographic and takes a
more analytical approach. The show is produced by Steve Myers.
The Laundry Room is an emerging force in the widespread social
phenomenon of personal and political expression, as told in Time
Magazine’s cover story, "Person of the Year: You." Larry says, "If
more people go ahead and do something like [a YouTube show], just
think of the conversations that could be had."
One of the angles of the show is holding public officials accountable
and reports on breaking events in the Flint Michigan political
landscape as they unfold. The Laundry Room acts as a watchdog for
political corruption and abuse of power and is the ultimate display of
voter empowerment. Larry and John have dubbed themselves "equal
opportunity voters" and they encourage concerned citizens to get
involved and voice their opinions on their Hotline at (810) 471-4252,
which is open 24 hours a day.
The Laundry Room will be the first to interview Flint mayoral
candidates Dale Weighill, Norman Bryant, and Adam Ford. Flint council
Members Sandy Hill and Ehren Gonzales are scheduled to appear as is
Ryan Eashoo, Chairman of the Flint Historic District Commission, who
met with resistance when he attempted to enter Michael Moore into his
high school’s Hall of Fame. The entire affair was covered nationally.
In the end the school chose to close the Hall of Fame rather than
admit Mr. Moore. Other notable guests included radio host John Roman
from Supertalk 1570’s "Roman on the Radio", Flint attorney Terry
Bankert, and former Flint District Attorney Robert Leonard.
About The Laundry Room:
The Laundry Room, produced by Steve Myers, is the only recurring web-based talk show
in the Flint area. In its brief two-month history, The
Laundry Room has broadcast a total 151 shows, each averaging 10-20
minutes. The shows have logged over 10,000 views on YouTube.com. Fans
from all over the world call into the show from places like Australia,
and coast to coast representation from New York City and Los Angeles.
Larry and John are Citizen Journalists for ManiaTV.com and were recently interviewed on
the 1570 AM SuperTalk "Roman on the Radio"
The show is named after the room where its concept was born—in the
laundry room of Larry Crucetti’s East Side Flint, Michigan home. It
was there that Larry discovered YouTube and was inspired to propose the use of an
Internet video forum as a tool of accountability for all public employees.
As a step in that direction, he resolved to provide a venue for dialog that can affect
positive change in society.
About FlintTalk.com:
Flint Michigan native Steve Myers created FlintTalk.com after seeing
an urgent need for a web-based forum for citizens of the Flint community to voice their
political opinions and views.
About Roscoe Van Zandt Films:
Shawn G. Chittle is a Flint Michigan native and Executive Producer at
Rosce Van Zandt Films in New York City. He is currently producing
several documentaries and dramatic short films in various stages of
development, many of which revolve around Flint as it faces its new,
post-General Motors reality in the 21st Century.
http://www.thelaundryroom.us/blog/
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Flint Talk
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The laundry Room
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Flint Area Citizen Internet Advocacy US
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Legal Help
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Family Rights articles
http://www.thelaundryroom.us/http://terrybankert.blogspot.com/
Parents in Child Protective proceedings
http://health.groups.yahoo.com/group/child_neglect_abuse/
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Saturday, December 23, 2006
Comment on post 12/23/06
9727.1. With all due respect.... by
Bush08,
12/23/06 10:00 ET
Re: How stupid by terrybankert, 12/23/06
Your topic sounds a little Micheal Moore-ish.Why bash the rich people.Most of them have sucessful businesses like yourself.Their the engine of this city not GM.....Merry CHRISTmas
9727.1.1. Point well taken... the post is
just my frustration.
'
A holiday awarness of the suffering on the east side state streets and mid city Ave A etc..
GM is gone, gravy train jobs for the uneducated and unmotivated are gone.
We have a problem, on occassion I am consumed with our lack of intergovnmental coordination, leadership plans and a lack of true leadership.
I am convinced there is a plan that will work and a leader that understands it, can mobilize the community and can make it work.
So to the Flint Journal it is good our economy can produce millionairs.
And to the millionaires Merry CHRISTmas and a happy prosperous new year.
To the working middle class that has not abandoned Flint hang in there get active we can save our families, occupations and this town.
To those in economic harms way, this is a giving community look around and ask for help, we will be there for you if we can.
Don't wait to follow just lead.
see ya all in the hood
Terry Bankert12/23/06
12/23/06
W-TRB
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Date:12/23/06
[RE: A dailey under construction later to post and air on Your Tube.]
- QUOTATION OF THE DAY -
"At first, you start to chuckle in the morning when it's 50 degrees, then you start to snicker and then you start to curse." -
RICK WEINSTEIN, marketing director for a Manhattan coat retailer, on the warm weather.
http://www.nytimes.com/2006/12/23/business/23warm.html?th&emc=th
Pessimists Just Get Really Old
"Optimists May Have Longer Lives"--headline, Reuters, Dec. 22
HOW STUPID DO YOU THINK WE ARE.
The Flint Journal has a lead article yesterday talking about the Flint Millionaires. Once again the Journal is the dumb young and fulla ___ cheer leader for the business community. Give us hope, those of us staying here while 800 GM Delphi worker just hit the brick, the under 30 crowd has no job prospect, families are starving in mid to north Flint. But yes please make us feel all warm and touchy about all your rich friends.
http://www.mlive.com/news/fljournal/index.ssf?/base/news-40/1166800840130590.xml&coll=5#continue
"I didn't think there were any millionaires in Genesee County," said Don Ostram, 48. "I thought they were all in California."
Possibly this Don will stay here with the other Dons and turn the lights out and bury the bodies. Appearances and all. Merry Christmas
TODAY'S HIGHLIGHTS
Prosecutors Drop Duke Rape Counts Prosecutors drop rape charges Friday against three Duke lacrosse players, but charges of kidnapping and sexual offense remain in place. (By Peter Whoriskey and Sylvia Adcock, The Washington Post)
Toyota Expects to Be World's No. 1 Automaker Next Year (By Sholnn Freeman and Dale Russakoff, The Washington Post)
Nationals Owners To Dig Even Deeper Lerners Plan to Spend Millions More On Improvements to D.C. Ballpark (By Thomas Boswell, The Washington Post)
Saudi Lawyer Takes On Religious Court System Rights Cases Used To Press for Change (By Faiza Saleh Ambah, The Washington Post)
From Parties to a Purple Heart Va. Soldier, Tested in Combat in Iraq, Shifts Focus to Future, Family (By Donna St. George, The Washington Post)
- WORLD -
ON THE BRINK
A Joint Attack on Many Perils of Africa's Young By CELIA W. DUGGER Campaigns were carried out in nine African countries this year to better children's odds of surviving past their fifth birthdays.
http://www.nytimes.com/2006/12/23/world/africa/23ghana.html?th&emc=th ..................
Palestinian Truce Shaky, but Violence Ebbs By STEVEN ERLANGER While there were outbursts of violence, Friday's death toll was lower than earlier in the week, politicians spoke of calm and the streets were generally quiet.
http://www.nytimes.com/2006/12/23/world/middleeast/23mideast.html?th&emc=th ..................
In the Third Day of Fighting in Somalia, Worries of a Sharp Escalation by Ethiopian Forces By JEFFREY GETTLEMAN Residents of Baidoa said they saw Ethiopian tanks heading to the front lines, heightening worries that Somalia's internal problems could soon become regional ones.
http://www.nytimes.com/2006/12/23/world/africa/23somalia.html?th&emc=th
POLITICS
Schwarzenegger Remakes Himself as Environmentalist
SACRAMENTO -- Arnold Schwarzenegger is not the type of guy you would necessarily associate with tree hugging. When he bought a Hummer in the early 1990s, it kicked off a nationwide craze for the gas-guzzling behemoths. His lighter-fluid-dowsed action flicks and protein-packed chest bespoke more of... (By John Pomfret, The Washington Post)
U.S. Drops Inquiry of Voting Machine Firm
Venezuelan Parent Company, With Possible Ties to Chávez Government, Agrees to Sell (By Zachary A. Goldfarb, The Washington Post)
Goode Has Often Inspired Political Ire
Friends Say Congressman Unlikely to Back Down in Flap Over Muslim Representative (By Michael D. Shear And Tim Craig, The Washington Post)
Proposed Rules for Securing Chemical Plants Released
Companies Would Be Required to Submit to the Government Their Plans for Protecting Themselves (The Washington Post)
WORLD
From Parties to a Purple Heart
Before she was a soldier in Iraq, Monica Beltran was a party girl in Woodbridge. (By Donna St. George, The Washington Post)
Saudi Lawyer Takes On Religious Court System
Rights Cases Used To Press for Change (By Faiza Saleh Ambah, The Washington Post)
Nuclear Talks With N. Korea End in Failure
Six-Party Process Thrown Into Doubt (By Edward Cody, The Washington Post)
In China, Feeling Snowed Under by Christmas
(By Edward Cody, The Washington Post)
Inconclusive Clashes Roil Somalia for Fourth Day
Combat Called Tentative, Despite Hundreds Killed (By Stephanie McCrummen, The Washington Post)
Five Best
BY GEORGE WEIGEL Essential books for understanding Christianity.12:01 a.m. EST
Weather in West Eases, but Airport Impact Ripples Across Country By SUSAN SAULNY Denver's airport reopened after being closed for 45 hours, but travelers from Seattle to Boston felt the effects.
http://www.nytimes.com/2006/12/23/us/23storm.html?th&emc=th ..................
Flurry of Calls About Draft, and a Day of Denials By ERIC LICHTBLAU A wire service article that noted that the Selective Service was making plans for a "mock" draft exercise created a busy day for the agency's media contact.
http://www.nytimes.com/2006/12/23/washington/23draft.html?th&emc=th
Talks End on North Korea's Nuclear Weapons By JOSEPH KAHN The talks ended Friday without tangible progress, and afterward Pyongyang quickly renewed threats to "improve its nuclear deterrent."
http://www.nytimes.com/2006/12/23/world/asia/23korea.html?th&emc=th
World Ends, Etc."
Pandemic Would Hit Poor the Hardest, New Flu Study Says"--headline, Seattle Times, Dec. 22
More people choosing to skip lawyers--a November 27, 2006 Salt Lake Tribune article that discusses a recent survey of the Utah judiciary on self-representation. http://www.sltrib.com/justice/ci_4727488
MICHIGAN
(TV-5) -- Hundreds of workers at GM and Delphi are parting ways. On December 22nd, outgoing Delphi workers in Mid-Michigan gathered to wish each other well on their new lives as retirees.
Some employees have created a unique bond with each other. Hugs, handshakes and one last goodbye, is how many Delphi veterans said farewell to each other. For more than three decades they worked side by side - during the good and not so good times.
Yes, they were co-workers but over the years they became much more than that. Some fell in love and got married. Some became the best of friends. But each of them say they're going to miss the people they worked with.
Together for thirty years, they have become a family and while they won't see each other everyday - like family - they will gather on the holidays to talk about those good old days.
Some of those retirees will stay on the job for a few months training incoming workers on their new jobs.
GENESEE AND FLINT AREA
-I went to the Perani Center and watch professional fighting last night. The most interesting thing there was the loud old man next to me that wet his pants. Billed as 7 fights it was 4.TRB
-CHRISTMAS WISH: My CHRISTian family and I would much rather hear "Merry CHRISTmas" than any other phrase.
Talkking back-Davison Township
FLINT INSTITUTIONS AND NEIGHBORHOOD GROUPS
FROM FLINT TALK
-Biggie comments
huh? what was informative? it seemed like a stream of consciousness...bunch of links, story lines with no content what was this supposed to be actually?
ANS; A You Tube dailey under construction. Thank You
JAYJENKINS
The State of Michignan requires every individual to make every effort to retreat be fore using force until you are either in your bedroom, or your place of business.
I bring this up because of a recent event that happened at my home. Three obviously drunk individuals were walking past my home one night. They were hollaring profanities and such. (no big deal)
Then, one of them started harrasing a woman warming up her car. calling her "bitch, hoar, ..." He then started yelling "thats my car!! Get out of my car!! I'll kill you bitch" It was obviously not his car as his freinds laughed as they held him back. They kept telling him to "quit playing." He then turned towards me and yelled "you want some?"
This continued for about 3~4 minutes. e said "I know where you live, I'll kill you and your whole family" This is when I pulled the hammer back on my pistol. I never showed it, or even said a word back to him.
I called the police, and ofcourse they arrived late enough to completly miss the whole thing. The problem I have is, I believe him when he threatens my wife and 4 mo. old son. Yet, I have to wait until he breaks into my house, follows me up the stairs, and into my bedroom. I question weather or not I would let him past the front door. Also, there are other concerns. What could I've done if he attacked the woman?
My bedrooms on the second floor; what if he started a fire on the first? My question is, when should I be allowed to use force against a threat to me and my family?
SEE:
http://www.flinttalk.com/about1894.html
RAPUNZEL
Larry and John,
Did not catch the date of your year end show?
Would suggest Lee Bell, Franklin Green, Janis Mohhammad(sp), Traci Collier Nix, Ombudsman- Brenda Purifoy. Any person sitting on the current Flint School Board, former runner for Board -Elizander Barzart (sp). Sheriff Pickell, Patrick Ryals, Josh Freeman, Officer Dicks Or Super Milton.
Have NO interest in anything- speak out of both sides of his mouth...Chris Martin has to say!
You could have just said you don't want a quickie from Eric Mayes- king of absentee ballots, dead or alive! I do appreciate the man but hold sacred honesty of the peoples vote.
If you want only Mayorial electee questions why ask for a broader forum? I can get you questions...have a fair panel that I enlist questions from. I also have a file of questions asked at former debates.
Need a bit more guidance in text form on what you envision.
Prior to me asking for attendance from those mentioned. Will email you personally, do not care for phone or audio. Peace, RAP Pardon me for remaining as a guest online.
http://www.flinttalk.com/post-6863.html#6863
FROM FLINT TOWN TALK
http://www.mlive.com/forums/flint/index.ssf
9724. pickell presser by
226chosen, 12/22/06 11:34 ET
at 6 p.m. tonight (in time for evening news) to announce the ol sheriff has busted s. claus for double parking outside a flint school..."He likes to hang around children. It won't happen on my watch," the county's top cop will say
9723.4.
Departure of Skip Harbin by
, 12/22/06 23:33 ET Re: Pickell or Milton? by tripleback, 12/22/06
should have been a signal that excellence in deceit and corruption now rule all aspects of Flint governance.
GUEST EDITORIAL
Watching the Exits Washington is full of politicians who want to keep out terrorists and illegal immigrants, but far fewer who want to commit the time and money to a realistic discussion of how to do that.
http://www.nytimes.com/2006/12/23/opinion/23sat1.html?th&emc=th
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Flint Talk
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The laundry Room
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Flint Area Citizen Internet Advocacy US
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Family Rights articles
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