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Good Morning Flint !
By
Terry Bankert
02/05/08
posted to Flint Talk at http://flinttalk.com/viewtopic.php?p=25462#25462
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I was looking through my calendar and saw that the local National Democratic Party Delegate elections will soon occur.It is still not too late to step forward and say that you want to go to a National Democratic Party Convention. You will have to compete for it but to qualify you must be a party member. Heres the process
District-level delegates and alternates shall be elected by congressional district conventions held on Saturday, March 29, 2008.[S]
I THOUGHT I WOULD FIND OUT WHAT A PERSON HAS TO DO TO ATTEND AND BEABLE TO VOTE AT THESE CONVENTIONS.
First I went to Marks Brewers home page, the Michigan Democratic Party at http://michigandems.com/
MICHIGAN DEMOCRATIC PARTY RELEASES 2008 NATIONAL CONVENTION PLEDGED DELEGATE, ALTERNATE, AND COMMITTEE ALLOCATION [MD]
Allocation based on January 15, 2008 Primary Results [MD]
The Michigan Democratic Party today released the official allocation of pledged delegates, alternates, and committee members for Hillary Clinton and for Uncommitted based on the official January 15, 2008 Presidential Primary results certified by the Board of State Canvassers on February 4, 2008. [MD]
Overall, Clinton will have 73 pledged delegates, 16 pledged alternates, and 10 committee members, and there will be 55 uncommitted delegates, 5 uncommitted alternates, and 8 uncommitted committee members. [MD]
Eighty-three (83) pledged delegates and 15 pledged alternates will be elected at Congressional District Conventions on March 29, 2008. The remaining 45 pledged delegates and 6 pledged alternates will be elected at a State Central Committee meeting on May 17, 2008 in Grand Rapids. Committee members will be elected that day by the entire delegation. [MD]
These 128 pledged delegates, 21 pledged alternates and 18 committee members together with 28 unpledged delegates (also known as "super delegates") will constitute Michigan’s delegation to the 2008 Democratic National Convention in Denver, Colorado on August 25-28.[MD]
The Genesee County Congressional District is mostly Dale Kildees 5th Congressional District.
The 5th Congressional District has been allocated for Clinton 2 Female Delegates and 2 male Delegates with 1 male altenate. The uncommitted delegates Are 1 female and 1 male delegate.[MD]
The State Party has a link to a pdf document Titled michigan delegated selection plan.
http://michigandems.com/2008DSP.pdf
HERE IS WHAT YOU HAVE TO DO TO WATCH OR PARTICIPATE IN THE CONGRESIONAL DISTRICT LEVEL SELECTION OF NAOTIONAL CONVENTION DELEGATES. SPECIFICALLY TO SEE IF OBAMA GETS ANY DELEGATES.
District-Level Delegate and Alternate Candidate Filing Requirements [S]
a. A district-level delegate and alternate candidate may run for election only within the district in which he or she is registered to vote.[S]
YOU MUST BE A MEMBER OF THE MICHIGAN DEMOCRATIC PARTY BY 2/28/08
b. An individual can qualify as a candidate for district-level delegate or alternate by joining the
Michigan Democratic Party and by filing a statement of candidacy with the Chair by 5 P.M.
February 28, 2008 at 606 Townsend St., Lansing, MI 48933. [S]
HERE IS HOW YOU CAN JOIN THE MICHGIAN DEMOCRATIC PARTY TO HELP PROTECT OBAMAS RIGHT TO A FAIR DELEGATE SELECTION PROCESS.
An individual can join the party by completing an application and submitting it by hand-delivery, mail, FAX, e-mail or at the The Party Website.[S]
There is no financial requirement to join the Party. Any statement of candidacy
or membership received after the deadline, regardless of the reason for delay, will not meet this
qualification.[S]
MICHIGAN DEMOCRATIC PARTY ONLINE MEMBERSHIP APPLICATION, JOIN ONLINE AT:
http://michigandems.com/join.html
To be eligible for a delegate spot there is a statement of candidacy and other information that you must provide.[S]
Posted here by
Terry Bankert
—where did this stuff come from---
[MD]
Michigan Democratic Party
http://michigandems.com/020808prs.html
[S]
Michigan Delegate Selection Plan
http://michigandems.com/2008DSP.pdf
[trb]
Comments of Terry Bankert
http://attorneybankert.com/
Sunday, February 24, 2008
DEADLINE TO QUALIFY TO VOTE AT LOCAL DEMOCRATIC CONVENTION
CLINTON , OBAMA, AND MARK!
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GOOD MORNING FLINT!
2/24/08
Bt Terry Bankert
http://attorneybankert.com/
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MARK AND ME!
Former high school valedictorian Mark Brewer is not Mr. Popular these days among some Michigan Democrats he leads.[FP]
"I tried to talk with Mark Brewer at the Michigan Democratic Party State Central held in Flint MI at the Buick UAW local 599.
I wanted to ask him if Obama will be treated fairly by the Michigan Democratic Party and get his delegates if seated.
I also wanted to ask him why he did not use the Presidential Primary system to build the party instead of tearing it down by making us the joke of the nation.
He was in the labor caucus when I arrived. I entered the room and made eye contact with him. He must have sent the sgt at arms over who asked me to leave because I was not a card carrying current member of labor. I am an ex union member, UAW, Teamsters, Rail Road brotherhood but all I have now is a State Bar of Michigan Identification Card. That was not going to work in this room.
The State Central Committee was in a large gym like auditorium cut in half by dividing doors. I went to the side with the coffee and the lunch being prepared to wait with a 100 other people.
When the deal was cut, marching orders given the dividing doors were removed I approached again to talk to Mark Again a sgt at arms stopped me and said that arear was reserved for the State Central Delegates I would have to wait....til hell freezes over is my guess.
I used to come regularly to State Central . I have been loyal to the labor caucus for 25 years. I guess it’s a new day.[trb]( Michael Moore did this parody much better that I, even made a movie and wrote a book. Guess I’ll stay in the bush leagues,-trb)"
OBAMA MAKES HIS PRESENCE FELT, DRIVING THE DELEGATES BEHIND CLOSED DOORS.
Obama supporters protest outside state Dem committee meeting in Flint[FJ] Mabey Obama will get to talk to Mark.[trb]
SOME TRY TO BLAME LEVIN
Now Michigan's delegates are threatened with lockout from the national convention, as the presidential primary race tightens. The plan to move up Michigan's primary date was driven chiefly by U.S. Sen. Carl Levin, D-Mich., but Brewer, as party chairman, takes much of the heat. And he takes it in stride.[FP]
MARK , YOU NEED TO GO.
Michigan Democrats led by Chairperson Mark Brewer in a power play with the Democratic National Committee(DNC) have made a mockery of Michigan’s Presidential Primary, hurt our party building efforts and placed the interests of the Michigan Democratic Party State Central Committee over common Democrats. Michigan’s Democratic National Convention Delegates should not be seated and the State Party Chairperson Mark Brewer removed! [trb]
The battle over whether to include Michigan's delegates at the Democratic National Convention pushed on this weekend. [WJRT]
Since the Iowa caucuses in early January, Sens. Hillary Clinton and Barack Obama have been locked in a tight race for their party's nomination. In all, 2,025 delegates are needed to secure the nomination, but current tallies differ. It may not be possible for either candidate to secure the number needed solely from primaries and caucuses [WJRT]
STATE WIDE RALLY IN FLINT OF THE BEST THE STATE WIDE DEMOCRATIC PARTY HAS TO OFFER.[TRB]
Supporters of Democratic presidential hopeful Barrack Obama gathered from across the state outside UAW Local 599 headquarters to rally prior to the Michigan Democratic Party State Central Committee meeting about how party delegates will be distributed.[FJ]
On Saturday, Democrats from across the state gathered in Flint for the Michigan Democratic Central Committee meetings. A change of heart could change the outcome and could decide who becomes the party's presidential candidate.[WJRT]
I ATTENDED THIS METING, passing Floyd Clark Sam Riddle and others out side. Inside were people I had not seen for 20 years. I remember attending a State Central Committee with my daughter in a basket. She was the youngest member of the Democratic Party that year.[trb]
NATIONAL CONVENTION DELEGATES, SHOULD MICHIGAN’S BE SEATED? NO![TRB]
The primary, held earlier this year than the Democratic Party's rules allow, has concerned Obama supporters. Obama and Democratic candidate Hillary Clinton both pledged to follow those rules and not have their names on the Michigan ballot. Clinton's name was on the ballot, however, and she received the majority of the votes.[FJ]
Michigan's 156 delegates were pulled after lawmakers voted to move our primary to Jan. 15 in violation of the party's rules. Major candidates -- including Barack Obama -- pulled their names from the ballot. Hillary Clinton's name remained on the ballot and now there is talk of counting her share of the delegates at the convention.[WJRT] I guess her expierence in back room politics led her to this decision.[trb]
It’s not just that her candidacy’s central premise — the priceless value of "experience" — was fatally poisoned from the start by her still ill-explained vote to authorize the fiasco ...( THE WAR).... Senator Clinton then compounded that 2002 misjudgment by pursuing a 2008 campaign strategy that uncannily mimicked the disastrous Bush Iraq war plan. After promising a cakewalk to the nomination — "It will be me," Mrs. Clinton told Katie Couric in November — she was routed by an insurgency. [NYT]
SHE JUST SLIPPED THOUGH THE CRACKS![TRB]
Obama supporters don't think that's fair. [FJ] Don’t bend the rules because Clinton is in trouble.[trb]
Clinton fans don’t see their standard-bearer’s troubles this way. In their view, their highly substantive candidate was unfairly undone by a lightweight showboat who got a free ride from an often misogynist press and from naVve young people who lap up messianic language as if it were Jim Jones’s Kool-Aid. Or as Mrs. Clinton frames it, Senator Obama is all about empty words while she is all about action and hard work.[NYT]
SOME THINK RULES ARE FOR THOSE NOT IN CONTROL.[TRB]
"We're just out here saying we're following the rules. [FJ]
We thought it was an unfair process from the very beginning, but that was the process. ...We're asking the Michigan Democratic Party leadership that 40 percent (the percentage of uncommitted primary votes) go to Obama," said Christina Montague, statewide coordinator for Michiganders for Obama.[FJ]
"Michiganders for Obama launched the uncommitted campaign," Montague continued, "and we know that there were some people who might have supported other candidates that voted uncommitted because their candidate wasn't on there, but the majority was the Obama people." [FJ]
But it’s the Clinton strategists, not the Obama voters, who drank the Kool-Aid. The Obama campaign is not a vaporous cult; it’s a lean and mean political machine that gets the job done. The Clinton camp has been the slacker in this race, more words than action, and its candidate’s message, for all its purported high-mindedness, was and is self-immolating.[NYT]
About 30 supporters gathered outside the building holding signs that read "MDP Follow the Rules" and chanting "Just follow the rules." [FJ]
MANY AROUND THE STATE ARE ANGRY
"The fact that Mark Brewer has a positive attitude about his consituents being disenfrachised makes me even more outrage than I already was. Unless there is a 2nd caucus, there is no way that I will volunteer for this campaign like I did in 2006(and I worked my HEAD OFF in 2006), and there's no chance that Obama will carry Michigan.
Yet, Mark Brewer is making statements like: "It's unlikely that there will be a 2nd caucus"? That tells me he is OK with this situation. Sorry, getting some Michigan delegates seated by way of negotiation would make me more outraged than anything.
Why bother having a primary in the first place? Just save the money and negotiate our way into every national convention. Sure, he CAN NOT POSSIBLY GUARANTEE that there will be a redo caucus, but the fact that he isn't saying that he WANTS a redo caucus and is working to make it happen tells me he doesn't want one and is working against it. He must RESIGN NOW! Howard Dean too.2/21/2008 9:33:58 AM In response to A Detroit Free Press article [FP] a comment by Jeffwtux"
FLOYD CLACK
Floyd Clack, Genesee County coordinator for the Obama campaign, said, "Obama followed the rules of the Democratic National Committee and he shouldn't be punished for following those rules, and he got at least 40 percent of the uncommitted votes. That's the minimum amount of delegates that should be allocated out of this state." [FJ]
JUST HOW WAS THIS 40% ARRIVED AT.[TRB]
Clack added that it is still unclear what will happen on March 29 when delegates will be elected to represent the presidential candidates. [FJ]
JUST GIVE US A HINT?[TRB]
"Anything can happen," he said. [FJ]
now I’d be worried about you.[trb]
"Senator Obama told me, 'Just wait and see, wait and see,' so that's what we're doing," Montague said.[FJ]
WE HAVE GOT A PIPELINE
Ultimately, the DNC's Credentials Committee will decide whether to seat Michigan's pledged and superdelegates. If they are seated, 73 of Michigan's 128 pledged delegates must vote for Clinton. As the only major candidate who didn't take her name off the ballot, she received 55 percent of the vote.[WJRT]
The other 55 pledged delegates will presumably vote for Obama. He withdrew his name, but 40 percent of voters cast "uncommitted" ballots.[WJRT]
Because both candidates weren't on the ballot, the 28 superdelegates, who are free to vote their preference, may determine the fate of these campaigns.[WJRT]
Due to a change in the agenda, the allocation of delegates was not discussed at the meeting. [FJ]
FLOYD, THE STATE CENTRAL DID THE RIGHT THING,OR AT LEAST THE SMART THING.
A delay will allow the Texas delegate selection process too make Michigan moot or the most important decision in the country and altering the future of mankind.. After all the delegate selection process is a private intra party matter why should my party air its dirty laundry in public?[trb]
"People are very unhappy with what happened. I don't think they're blaming any person or persons," Brewer said last week. "It's a disappointment that we ended up where we are[FP]
Posted here by
Terry Bankert
http://attorneybankert.com/
—Where did this stuff come from---
[FJ]
The Flint Journal 2/26/08
http://www.mlive.com/flintjournal/index.ssf/2008/02/obama_supporters_protest_outsi.html
[WJRT]
WJRT TV 12
http://abclocal.go.com/wjrt/story?section=news/local&id=5977218#bodyText
[trb]
Comments of Terry Bankert
http://attorneybankert.com/
[FP]
The Detroit Free Press
http://www.freep.com/apps/pbcs.dll/article?AID=/20080220/NEWS06/802200313/1008/news06
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