Saturday, November 13, 2010

THE ONLY OPTION FOR SOME. YOU WILL NOT BE THE ONLY RETIREE YOU WILL NOT BE ALONE.

According to a recent story in USA Today, the Consumer Bankruptcy Project found that bankruptcy filings by those 65 and older jumped by 150 percent from 1991 to 2007. At the same time, bankruptcy filings for U.S. residents from the ages of 75 to 84 increased 433 percent.[9] You may need a bankruptcy attorney.


FILING FOR CHAPTER 7 BANKRUPTCY FOR SOME MAY BE THE ONLY WAY TO GET A FRESH START TO BEGIN RETIREMENT YEARS.

We work our jobs raise our kids pay our taxes and what happens? We have to beg our way through retirement. Is this a option that you want?


Instead of saving for retirement, a growing number of elderly Americans are instead preparing to file for Chapter 7 bankruptcy. At least that’s what the results of a new survey say.[9]


If you are approaching retirement years your  age group ranks are growing in bankruptcy court.

According to a recent story in USA Today, the Consumer Bankruptcy Project found that bankruptcy filings by those 65 and older jumped by 150 percent from 1991 to 2007. At the same time, bankruptcy filings for U.S. residents from the ages of 75 to 84 increased 433 percent.[9]

ELDERLY HEALTH CARE AND BANKRUPTCY
see notes at;

http://goodmorningflint.blogspot.com/2010/11/only-option-for-some-you-are-not-alone.html

Who do you trust to advise you?



A study was conducted by Professor John Pottow, an expert on bankruptcy at the University of Michigan Law School. He found that even though the elderly account for a relatively small share of overall bankruptcy filings, the growth rate in their filings has been dramatic. For example, from 1991 to 2007, the percentage of bankruptcy petitioners age 65 to 74 rose 178 percent. Those figures reflect trends before the recession began in 2008, so it’s fair to assume the situation has worsened in the past few years due to job losses, diminished retirement portfolios and housing equity.[7]



Our economy and housing values will only slowly recover. How much time do we have? What are our choices? The notes in the following section show you choice, filing for personal bankruptcy.

Posted here by Flint Area Bankruptcy Attorney Terry Bankert  810-235-1970

PERSONAL BANKRUPTCY

Is personal bankruptcy -- filing Chapter 7 -- the right solution for you? For millions of debt-ridden people, it's the only way out of their financial quagmire. Today's high level of unemployment is resulting in waves of desperate folks seeking shelter under Chapter 7 of the U.S. bankruptcy code. [1]



What It Is:

Chapter 7 refers to the section of U.S. bankruptcy law under which companies and individuals liquidate their assets in order to repay their debts.[2]

WHY ARE MORE ELDERLY GOING BANKRUPT?

Not only have bankruptcy filings within the general populace increased in Colorado but so have bankruptcy filings for those over 60 years of age, with the primary reason attributed to credit card debt. Many of the elderly have limited incomes, typically Social Security retirement benefits combined with a pension income, and such limited income is unlikely to offset the increasing interest, late charges and other fees charged by the credit card companies.[8]

There’s no empirical evidence as to why bankruptcy filings have increased among the elderly but my experience (from years of experience handling bankruptcy matters in Denver and most areas of Colorado) is that the elderly are generally less sophisticated with using credit cards and do not have similar access to other types of credit (due to having a fixed income). Additionally, many of the elderly are not as likely to negotiate with creditors and are typically less inclined to request financial help from family and friends.[8]

Most of the bankruptcy filings I see from elderly clients are chapter 7 cases. Having a limited income due to being retired, the overwhelming majority of my clients pass the Means Test and are not required to pay back any debts to unsecured creditors in a chapter 13 payment plan.[8]

The minority of my elderly clients who do file for chapter 13 in Colorado do so because of a pending foreclosure (with their house being their most valuable asset) or because of a previous chapter 7 filing within the past 8 years. Those facing foreclosure often lack the ability to keep up with monthly mortgage payments (especially as they simultaneously tackle the aforementioned credit card debt). [8]

Many of my elderly clients are also upside down on their mortgages as housing prices have decreased in Colorado (and nationwide) and are forced to file for chapter 13 bankruptcy to prevent against foreclosure.[8]


How It Works/Example:

Individuals, partnerships, or corporations can file bankruptcy under Chapter 7.[2]

Individuals
To file Chapter 7, the debtor files a petition with the local bankruptcy court (in some cases, creditors can force a debtor into Chapter 7 by filing the petition themselves). The debtor must provide the court with financial and tax information, as well as a list of creditors and outstanding debts. In most cases, the court also requires proof that the individual has obtained credit counseling. Filing the Chapter 7 petition automatically stops most collection actions against the debtor, including lawsuits, garnishments, and phone calls.[2]


Here's a shocking statistic to put the current financial environment in perspective: 1,512,989 people filed for bankruptcy in the 12 months ending June 30, 2010, a +21% increase from the 12 month period ending June 30, 2009. That's more people than the populations of any of these 10 states: New Hampshire, Maine, Hawaii, Rhode Island, Montana, Delaware, South Dakota, Alaska, North Dakota or Wyoming. It's also the most bankruptcies filed for any period following the Bankruptcy Prevention Act of 2005. [1]



Bankruptcy cases filed in federal courts for Fiscal Year (FY) 2010, the 12-month period ending Sept. 30, totaled 1,596,355, up 13.8 percent over total FY 2009 bankruptcy filings of 1,402,816; according to statistics released Monday by the Administrative Office of the U.S. Courts. While non-business bankruptcy filings continued to rise in FY 2010, business filings dropped slightly for the first time since 2006. The bankruptcies reported are for Oct. 1, 2009 through Sept. 30, 2010.[5]



There are many advantages to declaring bankruptcy. In most cases, filing for Chapter 7 will automatically stop most collection actions, including lawsuits, wage garnishments, and those never-ending phone calls. [1]



A TRUSTEE GETS INVOLVED

The U.S. trustee (or the court itself, in some states) then appoints an impartial trustee to handle the case and liquidate the debtor's assets. If all the debtor's assets are exempt or subject to liens, there may not be any assets to liquidate and hence no money to distribute to creditors. If there are assets to liquidate, however, the creditors usually file a written claim so that they can receive some of the proceeds. The trustee handles the liquidation and determines which creditors are paid first.[2]



However, before you take the drastic step of filing under Chapter 7, you need to be fully apprised of the potential pitfalls. Here's a look at a few nasty surprises that may await you:[1]

Bankruptcy laws vary from state to state.
Every state has its own peculiarities and exemptions; some state laws are more generous than others. Some states allow exemptions to shelter your automobile, household goods, Individual Retirement Accounts (IRAs), etc. Other states are more restrictive. Before you file for bankruptcy, do some homework to find out the laws applicable to your home state.[1]

Mortgages and any other secured loans are not eliminated.
Bankruptcy is designed to get creditors off your back, so you can get some breathing room to right yourself. Certain types of unsecured debt (e.g., credit cards) can be wiped off the books. However, to the consternation of many who file for bankruptcy, the laws don't allow you to just walk away from your mortgage or any other secured loan (any loan in which you've pledge some kind of "collateral" -- like your car or your home -- for the loan). Bankruptcy only keeps those payments at bay until you have dealt with other creditors.[1]



Collateral is an asset pledged by a borrower to a lender, usually in return for a loan. The lender has the right to seize the collateral if the borrower defaults on the obligation.[3]



Any cosigners of any collateral are in the same boat with you.
Likewise, if any of your collateral involves consignors, your cosigners won't be able to emerge out of debt with you. They will be liable for part or all of the debt you discharge through bankruptcy.[1]

Bankruptcy is reported on your credit report for 10 years.
Bankruptcy is like a Scarlet Letter that follows you around for a decade. The good news is that within this time frame, you can still re-establish a good credit rating, through frugality and paying off your debts in a timely fashion.[1]



What It Is:

A credit report is a report detailing a person's financial history specifically related to their ability to repay borrowed money.[4]

How It Works/Example:

There are three major credit bureau s in the United States: TransUnion, Experian and Equifax. Each keeps a database of financial information about borrowers, including the names of all their creditors (past and present), the dates when their accounts opened and closed, whether the account is a joint account, the balance and credit limit on each account, and the number and dates of late payments.[4]

Related information is also including such as previous names, address history, birth date, phone numbers, social security number, marital status, any legal judgments, child support owed, arrests, indictments, convictions, etc. Not just anyone can view someone's credit report --it is only available to those with a legally permissible purpose.[4]

Information on credit reports are used to determine a person's credit score. The credit score (or FICO score) in turn reflects a person's credit risk--that is, whether he or she is a trustworthy borrower. The more prompt and responsible a person is financially, the higher his or her FICO score is.[4]

In general, negative information (such as late payments or tax liens) remains on a credit report for seven years. Bankruptcies stay on the report for 10.

By law, credit bureaus must send you one copy (at your request) of your credit report each year. Additionally, if you have been denied a credit card because of information on your credit report, you may receive another free copy within 60 days of the denial. In most other circumstances, you usually have to pay the credit bureau for a copy of your credit report.[4]

Why It Matters:

Your credit report and the creditworthiness it reflects tells banks, credit card companies, retail stores, utilities, landlords, and even employers whether you are a financially responsible person. Bad credit causes people to be denied for loans, pay higher interest rates on loans, and have trouble in even the most minor areas of life, such as renting a video, getting utilities turned on or renting a car. Character and collateral also influence a person's creditworthiness, but the credit report often outweighs these attributes.[4]

It is important to note that credit reports often contain errors, so a consistent periodic look at your credit report can be very helpful. This also goes a long way toward preventing identity theft, because any accounts opened in your name will appear there. You have the right to contest incorrect information in your credit report, and credit bureau s by law must provide toll-free phone numbers, live customer-service representatives, and an expeditious investigation process. [4]



Bankruptcy does not wipe out withholding or sales taxes.
It's possible to get rid of old income taxes that are more than three years old, but this benefit has given rise to a myth that you also can eliminate withholding or sales taxes. This is not possible, no matter how old the taxes.[1]

You can't cherry pick the debts and property to list in your bankruptcy.
Many people seem to think that they can go through their portfolio of possessions and pick and choose what they want to list in the bankruptcy. They're shocked when they discover that it's all fair game. When you file bankruptcy, the law mandates that you list all your property and debts.[1]

Declaring bankruptcy does not get your "ex" off your back.
Bankruptcy does not allow you to cease payment on child support or alimony. Sorry, but you still need to write those checks. Although divorce is one of the most common causes of bankruptcy (click here to see the Top Causes of Bankruptcy...And How to Avoid Them), your agreement is not affected by a Chapter 7 filing. So, if you're thinking that you can wiggle out of those responsibilities, think again.[1]

Declaring bankruptcy does not get you off the hook on student loans.
Your student loan payments still need to be made. They can't be wiped out, as with a credit card balance.[1]

You must still fear the repo man.
A bankruptcy discharge doesn't eliminate liens. A secured debt is a debt where the creditor has a lien on your property and can repossess it if you don't pay the debt. Bankruptcy can wipe out the debt, but it still doesn't prevent the secured creditor from repossessing your property.[1]



HEALTH CARE AND BANKRUPTCY

healthcare expenses can wreck retirement security - a fact underscored by a recent study that found medical expenses are a major contributor to bankruptcy among older Americans.[6]

The study was conducted by Professor John Pottow, an expert on bankruptcy at the University of Michigan Law School. He found that even though the elderly account for a relatively small share of overall bankruptcy filings, the growth rate in their filings has been dramatic. For example, from 1991 to 2007, the percentage of bankruptcy petitioners age 65 to 74 rose 178 percent. Those figures reflect trends before the recession began in 2008, so it's fair to assume the situation has worsened in the past few years due to job losses, diminished retirement portfolios and housing equity.[6]

Healthcare is a major area of expense in retirement, and costs are rising more quickly than overall inflation.[6]

The Center for Retirement Research at Boston College (CRR) reports that the typical married couple at age 65 can expect to spend $197,000 in lifetime uninsured health costs, including insurance premiums, out-of-pocket and home healthcare. That figure excludes any long-term care need. When nursing care is factored in, the typical cost rises to $260,000, with a 5 percent chance of hitting $570,000.[6]

Research by Fidelity Investments shows that retiree healthcare expenses this year are 4.2 percent higher than in 2009, and have jumped 56 percent since 2002. By contrast, overall consumer prices are up just 1.1 percent so far this year. Fidelity also found that monthly healthcare costs average $535 this year, second only to the cost of food.[6]

A JUDGE GETS INVOLVED



Ultimately, a judge decides whether to discharge an individual's debt. The judge can deny the discharge if the debtor failed to keep adequate records, failed to explain the loss of any assets, committed a crime, disobeyed court orders, or did not seek credit counseling. Alimony, child support, and student loans generally cannot be discharged in a Chapter 7 case, nor can most judgments against the debtor for criminal acts.[2]

Why It Matters:

Chapter 7 is usually the last resort for individuals and businesses. For individuals, the goal of Chapter 7 is to get a fresh start by removing debts. However, bankruptcy virtually ruins a person's credit for several years, making it very difficult and expensive to borrow money in the future.[2]

The law works to prevent people from filing Chapter 7 merely to avoid repaying a debt. This is why not all individuals qualify for Chapter 7, especially those with high monthly income or those primarily saddled with consumer debts (i.e., credit card debt). If the individual does not qualify for Chapter 7, the case usually becomes a Chapter 13 filing, where the individual must still repay the debt, albeit under a payment plan.[2]




ELDERLY AMERICANS AND BANKRUPTCY



From these unsettling numbers, it seems that more elderly Americans will soon need to learn how to claim bankruptcy.[9]

This is a shame: U.S. residents who are nearing their retirement ages are supposed to be worrying about how much money they’ll need to save to spend their post-working years in a state of peace. They’re not supposed to learning the ins and outs of how to file bankruptcy.[9]

However, this is exactly what is happening. As usual, blame falls on the struggling national economy. Older Americans are facing the same problems that all U.S. residents are facing: Some have lost their jobs late in life. Others have had to cope with medical bills that are simply overwhelming. Still others have watched as their homes have fallen in value. Many U.S. residents had been counting on their homes’ ever-increasing values to help fund their retirement years. The Great Recession has certainly scuttled that dream.

Of course, the entire country is struggling these days, or so it seems. The number of bankruptcy filings, both of Chapter 7 bankruptcy and Chapter 13 claims, is on the rise. Bankruptcy filings aren’t discriminating based on age, gender, or wealth. U.S. residents of all kinds are facing overwhelming debt and declining yearly incomes.[9]

It’s a situation that won’t improve until the national economy shows some sign of regaining momentum. Unfortunately, it doesn’t look as if this is going to happen any time soon. Yes, it’s true that officially the economy is in recovery mode, but because unemployment remains so high, and because home values continue to fall or remain stagnant, the recovery doesn’t feel like one.[9]

Older Americans struggling with their finances do have some options to avoid Chapter 13 or Chapter 7 bankruptcy. [9]





DO YOU WANT TO BORROW FROM FAMILY MEMBERS?



They can try to borrow money from family members. They can work with non-profit credit counselors to set up budgets that allow them to pay down their outstanding debt. They can also take out debt consolidation loans or work with debt settlement providers. Of course, none of these options is perfect. They call come with negatives, everything from high fees and interest rates to the embarrassment of asking family members for financial help.[9]

FILING FOR CHAPTER 7 BANKRUPTCY FOR SOME MAY BE THE ONLY WAY TO GET A FRESH START TO BEGIN RETIREMENT YEARS.]



Posted here by Terry R. Bankeret
http://attorneybankert.com/



[1]

http://www.investinganswers.com/education/going-bankrupt-isnt-easy-startling-facts-you-never-knew-about-filing-bankrup-1958




[2]



http://www.investinganswers.com/term/chapter-7-352




[3]

http://www.investinganswers.com/term/collateral-1034




[4]

http://www.investinganswers.com/term/credit-report-113


[5]

http://www.grandrapidsmn.com/business/article_13b0cf04-ee8e-11df-8d50-001cc4c03286.html


[6]

http://www.reuters.com/article/idUSTRE6A73M920101108


[7]

http://www.americasnewsonline.com/study-on-bankruptcy-shows-dramatic-growth-in-filings-from-elderly-911/


[8]

http://www.jdsupra.com/post/documentViewer.aspx?fid=0dfce5a1-baa3-41f2-b47c-ea24f4efc410




[9]

http://www.creditloan.com/blog/2010/10/29/chapter-7-bankruptcy-filings-on-rise-among-older-americans/

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Monday, November 1, 2010

VOTE FOR MI SUPREME COURT CANDIDATES ALTON THOMAS DAVIS AND DENISE LANGFORD MORRIS.

I will be a poll greeter for Davis and Denise tomorrow  2010 GENERAL ELECTION at Sarvis Food Center.Stop by and say Hi. Thats Alton Thomas Davis Justice for the Supreme Court and Denise Langford Morris. I am working to replace Michigans Worst Judge with Justice for the People. Remember to vote the non partisan section of your ballot....( I'm just warming up..)
Judicial candidates are using the Nov. 2 election to balance the scales of justice in Michigan.

Five candidates are running for two open seats on Michigan’s Supreme Court. Both current justices Alton Thomas Davis and Bob Young look to extend their time on the Supreme Court, opposing new challengers Mary Beth Kelly, Denise Langford Morris and Bob Roddis.
Young has spent the past 11 years as a Supreme Court justice.
“I have more actual Supreme Court experience than any other candidate running for office,” he said. “No other candidate has that length of experience.”
Prior to holding his position as Supreme Court Justice, Young spent 18 years in private practice before being elected and appointed to the Michigan Court of Appeals. Young also spent three years on CMU’s Board of Trustees under president Leonard Plachta in the 1990s.

Davis also has experience serving on Michigan’s Supreme Court. Appointed in August, Davis spent the previous five years on the Michigan Court of Appeals and has 26 years worth of experience as a judge in Michigan, working as a circuit court trial judge for 21 years.
“I have three goals for the Supreme Court,” he said. “I want to improve the court, ensure that we are fair and impartial and implement reform.”

Kelly also wants to improve Michigan’s Supreme Court.
“I want to bring my conservative judicial philosophy to the Supreme Court because I believe it is needed right now,” she said. “A judge needs to be conservative because our Constitution envisions this limited role for the judiciary.”
Kelly has been a Wayne County Circuit Court judge since 1999. She was appointed by the Michigan Supreme Court to be chief judge of the court, becoming the first woman to lead that bench.

Morris believes she has the skill set to serve as a Justice of the Supreme Court.

Morris has served as an Oakland County Circuit Court judge since 1992. She also has experience serving as an assistant U.S. attorney and assistant Oakland County prosecutor, as well as spending two years in private practice.

“I believe I possess the experience, intellect and integrity needed on the Michigan Supreme Court,” she said. “I have broad-based experience in state and federal courts, handling civil criminal, probate, family and appellate cases.”

Roddis is also looking to fill one of the two seats on Michigan’s Supreme Court. Serving as an attorney since 1980, Roddis has a juris doctor degree from Detroit College of Law and a master’s of law degree from Wayne State University Law School
http://www.cm-life.com/2010/11/01/five-state-supreme-court-candidates-vary-in-experience-run-for-two-seats/

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Tuesday, October 26, 2010

TAX MONEY DOWN THE DRAIN OR SAVINGS WITH NEW WATER AUTHORITY?

For those that promote regional government a Regional Authority is a vehicle to accomplish this.

How do you coordinate a project across political jurisdictions weaving the maze of statutory authority and relying on multiple jurisdictions. You create an Authority.


The public will lose access and will have to rely on their elected officials and media to protect their jurisdictionally competing interests. Genesee County was embroiled in criminal controversy concerning a pipelines effort several decades ago.

At this early stage the Authority should address the issue of public accountability. No negative is ment. To protect the publics interest in transparency, participation and accountability is a good thing to do.

The easiest time to do it is now not in reaction to controversy. Authority member should make this one of their first orders of the day. Create a sub committee to study the issues of transparency, citizen participation and accountability.

I would also suggest thought be given for the processing of formal complaints by member groups and informal complaints from tax payers. Good Government advocates rise early and work late. Consider an ombudsman like function.





http://goodmorningflint.blogspot.com/2010/10/tax-money-down-drain-or-savings-with.html





---notes----draw your own conclusion



REGIONAL WATER AUTHORITY..I CANNOT PRONOUNCE THE NAME SO I’LL JUST CALL IT KAREN

The new regional authority that's interested in building a water pipeline to Lake Huron could grow to include St. Clair County not long after its first meeting Tuesday. [1]

KAREN NON DI

A new governmental authority, the Karegnondi Water Authority (KWA), is planned to develop and operate the water supply. The KWA will be comprised of the communities supplied water. [3]

WHAT WILL KAREN DO FIRST

Implementation
Prior to a decision by the study participants on whether to continue to purchase water from the current supplier or to pursue development of a new supply, the KWA should be incorporated. Details regarding the structure and operating procedures of the authority should be developed and understood prior to a decision regarding an alternative. This will require that participants authorize that the articles of incorporation are developed. Following their completion, the KWA can be established through a vote of the participants as a decision is made regarding which alternative should be pursued.[3]



THEY WILL HAVE THE FIRST MEETING TO MAKE THE DECISION THAT HAS ALREADY BEEN MADE.

"I don't think Detroit is willing to discuss (any new rate structure) for the area," he[COUSINS] said. "Genesee County and Flint, I think, are going to move forward regardless.[2]



The City of Flint (Flint), the Genesee County Drain Commissioner – Division of Water and Waste Services (GCDC-WWS), and the Greater Lapeer County Utilities Authority (GLCUA) are supplied water from the City of Detroit’s Department of Water and Sewerage (DWSD). Because of growing concerns regarding the reliability and cost of the DWSD supply, these utilities have considered other alternatives for water supply. The first formal study was completed in 1992; the most recent was completed in 2006.[3]



WHAT IS THE PLAN

New Lake Huron Water Supply


The 2006 study evaluated several options for a new water supply. This study focuses on the alternative of delivering raw water from Lake Huron to participating communities for local treatment and distribution.[3]

In 2002, GCDC-WWS purchased 230 acres of land adjacent to Lake Huron in southern Sanilac County. An intake will be constructed several miles out into Lake Huron and a pumping station will be built on this site. Raw water will be pumped through a pipeline to an inland reservoir.[3]

Inland from the reservoir, pipelines will supply water for treatment facilities in Flint, GCDC-WWS, and GLCUA. Treatment facilities for Sanilac County can be located along the pipeline route.[3]

Treatment by microfiltration has been planned for Sanilac County and GLCUA. A new conventional treatment plant is planned for GCDC-WWS. It is planned that raw Lake Huron water will be delivered to Flint's existing treatment plant.[3]

The water system provides for twin pipelines, storage, backup equipment, and redundant processes to provide a reliable supply. [3]





OPEN TO THE PUBLIC

Because Karegnondi, which means "lake" in the Petan Indian language, has been created as a public agency, the 3 p.m. meeting in Flint City Hall, 1101 S. Saginaw St., Flint, is open to the public. The five communities that make up the authority have already agreed to articles of incorporation for the new collective. [2]


Wright said his office has sent notices of Tuesday's meeting to anyone who has expressed interest in the pipeline issue by writing to his office in the past.[2]





DUMPDETROITWATER.COM MOVEMENT GROWING

And although divorce from the Detroit water system isn't on the agenda, representatives of Flint, Lapeer, and Genesee, Lapeer and Sanilac counties are clearly feeling unloved and ready to move on. [2]

Detroit Water & Sewerage spokeswoman Mary Sevakis said officials with the utility are aware of the Karegnondi group and expects an average 5 percent increase in the price of water for other customers if the Karegnondi communities break away from Detroit.

Sevakis said Detroit is still open to negotiating new contracts with the communities, including Flint, its largest water customer.[2]


WRIGHT SAYS THIS IS THE RIGHT THING TO DO

Wright's office has kept the idea of building a new water pipeline alive for years, promoting the idea through a 2006 feasibility study. The drain commissioner has said a new pipeline to supply the area will have to be built in the short-term -- either by the new authority of Detroit. [2]

The cost of building a new pipeline from Genesee County to Lake Huron has been estimated at about $600 million, but Genesee County officials have said the long-term cost of water will be "substantially less" from an authority-owned pipeline than continuing to purchase water from Detroit. [2]


Analysis has shown that the difference in the cost of water between the alternative of continuing supply from DWSD and of constructing a new Lake Huron supply can provide for the capital investment to construct the new supply. If Alternative 2 (New Lake Huron Supply) is constructed and water rates are increased to the levels projected for Alternative 1 (future DWSD rates), then the difference can be used to payoff the bonds that were taken out to finance the construction of the new water supply. Following repayment of the bonds, the cost of water will be reduced to a fraction of what is expected if supply is continued from DWSD. [3]







THE GROWING BAND OF FIVE.

Genesee County Drain Commissioner Jeff Wright, one of five members of the Karegnondi Water Authority Board, said the group could discuss St. Clair County's interest at its 3 p.m. meeting in Flint.[1]



Board members are Walling, representing Flint; Wright, representing Genesee County; Dale Kerbyson, representing the city of Lapeer; John Cosens, representing Lapeer County; and Greg Alexander, representing Sanilac County.

Cosens said he's coming into Tuesday's meeting with the expectation that the new authority will build it's own water pipeline. [2]


Flint, which is a direct customer of Detroit, resells Lake Huron water -- pumped here through a Detroit-owned pipeline -- to Genesee County but for decades officials here have complained of high costs for the water and a price formula that penalizes this area because of its distance from Detroit and its elevation. [2]

"Our region is at the end the Detroit pipeline and required to pay an unfair portion of the costs" for the system, Walling said. Detroit has been unwilling to "negotiate contracts with special provisions" for Flint, the mayor said.[2]





ST.CLAIR COUNTY INTERESTED

"We received a notice in writing from St. Clair County that they have interest in joining the authority," Wright said today. [1]

BOB WILL BE THERE..TUESDAY

St. Clair County Drain Commissioner Bob Wiley said he expects to attend the Tuesday meeting and take information from it back to the St. Clair County Board of Commissioners for action. [1]

"The expectation I have for the authority is that it will move forward with construction of a pipeline," said Flint Mayor Dayne Walling, one of the five members of the Karegnondi Water Authority. [2]





Tuesday's meeting won't go that far, but it's a huge milepost, "the next step" for breaking away from the Detroit Water & Sewerage Department, said Genesee County Drain Commissioner Jeff Wright.[2]

In addition to hearing from water customers, the board is expected to elect a chairman and other officers, approve authority bylaws, and discuss an initial budget. Wright said he expects funding for the authority will come from each community based on how much raw water each will want from a new pipeline.[2]





WRIGHT IS INTERESTED IN THEIR INTEREST



Wright said the authority could appoint a board member to discuss a full membership or the option to purchase water with St. Clair officials. [1]

"At this point, I've talked to most county commissioners," Wiley said today. "They are all showing an interest (but) they want the details." [1]

KARENGMOID

The Karegnondi Water Authority currently includes Genesee, Lapeer and Sanilac counties as well as the cities of Flint and Lapeer. The authority borrows its name from the Petan Indian language in which karegnondi means "lake." [1]

THEY WILL AVOID THE EARLY FEES?

Wiley said the need for St. Clair County to join in the authority isn't pressing but would keep the county's options open in the future. Port Huron, the county's largest city, treats river water for use in the city and for resale to other communities. One township in the county purchases water from the Detroit Water & Sewerage Department, he said. [1]

I SEE YOU

In addition to the communities that make up the water authority, other water users in the region have been watching the development of the Karegnondi group. [1]

AND I SEE YOU

Livingston County Drain Commissioner Brian Jonckheere said he is monitoring the group's progress even though he doesn't see the need to join at this point. [1]

THINGS ARE WELL IN LIVINGSTON COUNTY

Livingston County has a number of community well systems as sources of public water. Three townships in the county already have a relationship with the Genesee County drain office, which handles sewage treatment for them. [1]

PIPE OR AQUIFER

"I don't foresee we would need to use that (Lake Huron) water," Jonckheere said. "We are blessed with some very good aquifer and very good drinking water ... Our primary interest is in wanting to keep the option open." [1]

NOT EVERYONE WANTS A NEW PIPELINE

Roger Buell, former Grand Blanc Township engineer, said he plans to attend Tuesday's meeting and is opposed to creation of the authority to build a pipeline.

The Flint Journal could not immediately reach Buell for comment but he said in a e-mail that the cost of raw water from Detroit isn't enough to justify such a huge investment.

"We need a business-friendly environment and cooperating with Detroit is the right thing to do -- not some new government agency that the public has to watch its back for.," he said in an e-mail.[2]

KAREN GIVES ANSWERS TO FREQUENTLY ASKED QUESTIONS

. Why are we considering building a new pipeline?

Each community is on a year-to-year contract with DWSD. DWSD will not build a second feed to our area without a new 30-year contract. Before signing a 30-year contract, each community needs to determine which is the most reliable, cost effective, and provide the greatest flexibility for economic development of the region. A second pipeline will be built and paid for by the water customers of the region. The real question is who is going to build it, control it, own it and set the rates?

2. By joining the group, do we lose control of our system?

No, in fact your control over water and its cost will increase. Currently, you purchase finished water from DWSD with no input as to the cost. As a member of the group, you will purchase raw water and treat it to your own standards. As a member, you will participate in establishing the cost and rates for the water.

3. Why not use the Flint River and our existing treatment plant?

Your study concluded that:
a. Flint River can provide water to Flint or the county, not both.
b. The construction of pipeline is cheaper than the cost to treat Flint River water.
c. By using raw water, your treatment plant can be activated at a lower cost.
d. Regulations call for communities to access the best available source - we believe this is Lake Huron.

4. What is this going to cost?

The study projects that staying with DWSD will cost our region $2.1 billion over the next 25 years. By building our own pipeline, our cost would be $1.9 billion over the same period.

After the initial 25-year period, our cost would be less than 25% that the projected cost of water from DWSD.

5. Will our separation result in a loss of water to the Great Lakes?

Genesee County, on behalf of the study group, the cities of Flint and Lapeer, counties of Genesee and Lapeer, applied for a new water withdrawal from MDEQ, in accordance with the Great Lakes Compact. The withdrawal constitutes an inter-basin use and we are not diverting any water out of Lake Huron. All water is used and returned to the lake. Additionally, any increase in our use will result in a net decrease by the DWSD system but will not have an impact on Lake Huron.

6. Is this decision final?

No. Each community will appoint representatives to participate in drafting an intergovernmental agreement, which will be brought back to each council/board for consideration and adoption.

Posted here by

Terry Bankert

http://attorneybankert.com/


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http://www.mlive.com/news/flint/index.ssf/2010/10/st_clair_county_could_still_jo.html


[2]

http://www.mlive.com/news/flint/index.ssf/2010/10/karegnondi_water_authority_is.html


[3]

http://www.karegnondi.com/

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