Friday, February 8, 2008


Date 02/08/08 By Terry Bankert
Posted full article first to Flint Talk THEN summarized, for discussion, also posted to: Full article at Google blog Good Morning Flint, with citations. also posted to MLIVE Flint JOURNAL Flint Community blogs, Flint Citizen, Craigs list, Face Book, My Space and . Please circulate and post freely. Do you have suggestions for other sites to post to. Recent BANKERT VLOGG on :Mediation #1 ______________________

“It’s Time for a Change” is the current campaign drum beat, the campaigns must have done their own polling.[trb]

While Bush seem to be preoccupied with the popularity of others he is oblivious to his own.[trb]

Perhaps more disconcerting for the Bush administration and Israel: Hamas's popularity, while still lower than that of the more secular Fatah party, is on the rise, reversing a nearly two-year slide as the Islamist group has begun to reassert itself.[TWSJ]

Who cares! Bush just not get it.[trb]

It's almost as if people can barely stand the thought of President Bush and Congress anymore. Bush reached his lowest approval rating in The Associated Press-Ipsos poll on Friday as only 30 percent said they like the job he is doing, including an all-time low in his support by Republicans. Congress' approval fell to just 22 percent, equaling its poorest grade in the survey. Both marks dropped by 4 percentage points since early January. [AF]

When you are from Flint, in a local depression with a vacating town victimized by a departing auto industry you kn ow it was the economy all along. Why didn’t our elected officials protect us?[trb]

The dour public mood seems to chiefly reflect distress over the doddering economy, which has seen job cuts, financial market slides and real estate losses stoke recession fears. Bush's approval for handling the economy dove to 29 percent, a slide of 4 percentage points in a month and matching his low on that issue, with noticeable slumps among middle-income people, Southerners and city residents.[AF]

In our high school infatuation with the neo conservative religious with FOX net work political diatribes we closed our eyes to reality. Wake up USA it time to get the real smell of poverty, yours! Our national dissatisfaction with all republicans caused by Bush is sending a tidal wave of political contributions to our Democratic political insurgency that as in Chad today will be sweeping through the streets of DC and seizing the capital this fall.[trb]

The Democratic presidential campaigns of Barack Obama and Hillary Rodham Clinton said Thursday that their primary and caucus victories this week had translated into big numbers: $7.2 million in donations for him and $6.4 million for her.[LAT] "He's spent billions of dollars on the war, and the economy here is suffering," said Ron Brathwaite, 41, a Democrat from Brooklyn, N.Y., who was interviewed in the poll. "If you're leading this country, you should start fixing within this country."[AF]

9-11, and two wars kept the country distracted while Bush gave our wealth to his families domestic and foreign friends.[trb]

Bush and Congress have been overshadowed in recent months by a presidential campaign in which both parties' candidates have emphasized how they would change Washington — an implicit criticism of the president and the Democratic-led Congress. Even the leading Republican contenders have spent little time defending Bush, though they haven't attacked him frequently because he remains popular within the GOP.[AF]

If Bush is still popular in the GOP then the GOP should go. [trb]

Yet Bush's acceptance by his own party is at bottom in the AP-Ipsos poll. Just 61 percent of Republicans gave Bush positive reviews; his previous low was 65 percent last month. Only 28 percent of them expressed strong approval.[AF]

Conservatives are struggling to find an opinion in this presidential race.[trb]

Although Republican Presidential hopefuls like Mitt Romney and Mike Huckabee are holding on for their dear lives, one can argue John McCain has already won the Conservatives popularity contest. He will most likely run against either Hillary Clinton or Barak Obama, and there is a plausible chance he can win. In response to the possibility of McCain becoming the next President of the United States, I thought to myself, "It can't be that one is worse than President Bush."[AOL]

About one in 10 Democrats and three in 10 independents gave Bush positive marks.[AF]

"I believe we have to protect the country at all costs," said Jack Vogt, 61, a retiree from Lakeland, Fla., and a strong Bush supporter. He said he did not fault the president or Congress for the economy's problems, saying, "I don't feel they can influence it one way or the other."[AF]

A rudderless ship will flounder in heavy water as will a leaderless county. How better to have defended our country than from destruction of our economy from subsidized foreign labor.[trb]

Bush's previous overall low in the AP-Ipsos poll came in November when his approval rating was 31 percent. His current level is essentially even with that.[AF]

Congress also hit 22 percent in October. It usually has lower ratings than the president because it is an institution people love to criticize. Many have negative views of Congress while still supporting their own House and Senate members.[AF]

Even so, its ratings are approaching its historic low in the Gallup Poll of 18 percent reached in early 1992 during a furor over lawmakers who bounced House bank checks. Only about one in five Democrats, Republicans and independents approve of Congress' work, with less than one in 20 from each group approving strongly.[AF]

In 2008 we will change the party in the white house and the party of those congressional republican up for election.[trb]

"... Bush also hit a new low in this month's poll for his work on domestic issues like health care, energy and the environment, getting approval from 27 percent, a 7-point tumble since January. Thirty-three percent approved of his handling of the war in Iraq, virtually unchanged.[AF]

Underlining the public gloom, after a brief holiday uptick, the mood of the country has returned to its level in November, with just 25 percent saying the country is headed in the right direction.[AF] Bush beats Nixon!![trb]

President Truman had the lowest rating ever in the Gallup Poll with 23 percent approval in 1952 during the Korean War; President Nixon reached 24 percent during the summer of 1974 before he resigned during the Watergate scandal.[AF]

So where do we go now? The Republicans are surging to McCain. But is he the answer?[trb]

McCain is a carbon copy of George Bush...except he's older, and with a much more scandalous wife. In fact, his wife openly expressed one of her wrong-doings when she admitted to stealing prescription drugs from a charity she created herself. [AOL]

Is Hillary Clinton the answer? [trb]

I managed to stumble upon a clip of Hillary Clinton in one of last year’s Democratic debates. The question posed was, “Are you a liberal?” As Hillary furtively and spinelessly answered the simple question—in effect saying no—I began to think about the presidential election and remember her for the person she actually was. Throughout her experienced political career...Hillary Clinton has failed as a liberal. As a student at Wellesley, she actively campaigned for Republican Barry Goldwater, a man who more than once spoke of pre-emptively nuking the USSR and who also opposed civil rights. On the major issue of our time, the Iraq War, she voted for the resolution authorizing war, arguing that Saddam Hussein must “disarm or be disarmed”. Subsequently, when public support of the war started diminishing, Clinton’s perspective changed accordingly—a change politicized further by her refusal to honestly accept her vote as a mistake. In its place, she shirked blame, arguing that President Bush implemented Operation Iraqi Freedom poorly. She has also criticized the May 2007 troop surge, offensively proclaiming that if Iraqis are “not going to stand up and take responsibility, we should not lose another American life.” [THC]

Just where do we go now? Barack Obama seem to be the only legitimate voice for change. Its too bad that in Michigan we did not have a chance a votes to support him. Its too bad that the Michigan super delegates have hijacked the Michigan Democratic National Convention vote to deliver to Bill’s wife.[trb]

----where does this stuff come from-----

[AF] Alan Fram,Associated Press;_ylt=AmIz0QCKOtYmBi83CnnX_TSs0NUE [AOL] Ann Pasperian, AOL News
[LAT] Dan Moran,The Los Angeles Times,1,600282.story
[trb] Comments of Terry Bankert
[TWSJ] Cam Simposon, The Wall Street Journal
[THC] The Harvard Crimson, Opinion. —end---



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