HUSBAND HAS TO PAY UP! But not as much!
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BY Terry Bankert 3/01/08
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The following is a recent Court of Appeals case that I will present on WFLT 1420 A.M. Radio Flint MI Saturday 3/01/08 9:00 am until 9:30 am. It is a call in program. Questions will be fielded by calling 810-239-5733
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Inez Brown comment
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In the case we will talk about today:
Issues:
Divorce;
Division of the marital property; Pickering v. Pickering; Dragoo v. Dragoo; McNamara v. Horner; Sparks v. Sparks; Reed v. Reed;
Whether the property settlement was inequitable;
Whether the trial court properly imputed income to the plaintiff-husband as to the alimony award to the defendant-wife; Thames v. Thames; MCL 552.23; Moore v. Moore;
Whether the trial court erred in adjudicating the rights of third parties;
Subject matter jurisdiction of the trial court; Rudolph Steiner Sch. of Ann Arbor v. Ann Arbor Charter Twp.; Apollinari v. Johnson
Court: Michigan Court of Appeals (Unpublished)
Case Name: Riebschleger v. Riebschleger
February 21, 2008
v No. 270226
Bay Circuit Court
SUSAN RIEBSCHLEGER, a.k.a. SUSAN
O’ROURKE,
LC No. 03-050207-DM
Defendant-Appellee.
e-Journal Number: 38557
Judge(s): Per Curiam - Markey, Saad, and Wilder
SUMMARY
The court held the trial court properly valued the plaintiff-husband's law practice and awarded it to him, plaintiff was properly awarded his retirement plan, the $400,000 contingent fee he received on a case was marital property, the martial debts were correctly awarded to him together with assets which he could use pay those debts, the taxes plaintiff paid on lake property should be reimbursed to him from the sale of the property, the trial court abused its discretion in ordering the sale at auction of certain items of personal property, and the overall property settlement was equitable.
BACKGROUND OF THE PARTIES
The parties began living together in 1991 or 1992, and married in 1993. They had three children. Around the birth of the third child, the parties began sleeping in separate rooms. In 1995, plaintiff received a contingent fee of over $400,000. The divorce complaint was filed in October 2003, and trial was held in 2005.
HUSBAND WORKED MOM STAYED HOME, EQUAL PARTNERS!
The trial court found plaintiff was the primary breadwinner and defendant was the primary caregiver for the children. The trial court ordered plaintiff to pay defendant spousal support of $236 a month for a year.
TRIAL COURT FINDINGS
The trial court awarded the marital residence to defendant, finding it was worth $153,500 and ordered her to pay property taxes owed in the amount of $5,135.60.
The trial court also found the value of defendant's law practice property to be $209,000, and awarded it to him, improperly ordering him to pay a tenant in common $20,000, and taxes owed on the property in the amount of $4,576.89.
The trial court also ordered the parties' lake property to be listed for sale with $20,000 of the proceeds going to plaintiff's attorney and $20,000 going to defendant's attorney, and the balance divided equally among the parties. Affirmed in part, reversed in part, and remanded.
HUSBAND APPEALS
Plaintiff (Peter) appeals as of right the trial court’s divorce judgment following a bench
trial. Peter argues that
(1) the award of only 19% of the net marital estate to him, which estate
included property purchased with income he earned prior to the marriage, was clearly erroneous;
(2) the trial court erroneously imputed income to him without evidence that he intentionally
decreased his income; and
(3) the trial court erred in adjudicating the rights of third parties by
ordering him to pay an unliquidated debt not yet adjudicated, and by ordering that real estate
held by a trust could not be sold. We affirm in part, vacate in part, order the trial court to amend
the divorce judgment, and remand.
15 YEAR MARRAIGE, 3 CHILDREN, ASSETS AND SPOUSAL SUPPORT.
The parties began living together in 1991 or 1992, and married in 1993. They had three children born in 1994, 1995 and April 2000. Around the birth of the third child, the parties began sleeping in separate bedrooms. Meanwhile, in 1995, Peter, an attorney, received a fee of over $400,000 as a result of a contingent fee agreement reached in 1991.
The complaint for divorce was filed in October 2003, and trial was held in 2005. The
trial court found that Peter was the primary breadwinner and Susan was the primary caregiver for the children. The trial court ordered Peter to pay Susan spousal support of $236 per month for a year.
MARITAL HOME, MOM GETS IT.
The trial court awarded the marital residence to Susan, finding it to be worth $153,500, and ordering Susan to pay taxes owed on the property of $5,135.60. The trial court found the value of Peter’s law office property to be $209,000, and awarded it to him, ordering him to pay Dan Himmelspach (a tenant in common) $20,000, and to pay taxes owed on the property in the amount of $4,576.89. The trial court ordered that the parties’ property on Higgins Lake be listed for sale, with $20,000 of the proceeds going to Peter’s attorney, $20,000 to Susan’s attorney, and
the balance divided equally between the parties.
AWARD OF VEHICLES TO MOM
The trial court awarded several vehicles to Peter, while Susan was awarded the vehicle in her possession. Numerous other items of tangible personal property were ordered to be sold at auction.
HUSBAND, I DIDN’T GET ENOUGH!
Peter’s first argument on appeal is that the trial court’s award of a smaller portion of the net marital estate to him was unsupported by the record and inequitable.
HOW DOES THE COURT OF APPEALS REVIEW THE FINDINGS OF A LOWER COURT
In reviewing a trial court’s division of the marital estate, this Court reviews the trial court’s findings of fact for clear error.
Pickering v Pickering, 268 Mich App 1, 7; 706 NW2d 835 (2005). A finding is clearly
erroneous if, after a review of the entire record, the reviewing court is left with the definite and firm conviction that a mistake has been made. Beason v Beason, 435 Mich 791, 805; 460 NW2d 207 (1990); Draggoo v Draggoo, 223 Mich App 415, 429; 566 NW2d 642 (1997), citing Sparks v Sparks, 440 Mich 141, 151; 485 NW2d 893 (1992).
ARE THESE WITNESS BELIEVABLE OR JUST A BUNCH OF FOOLS?
This court gives a special deference to a trial court’s findings when based on the credibility of the witnesses. Draggoo, supra at 429.
If the Court upholds the trial court’s factual findings, it must decide if the property division was fair and equitable in light of the facts. Sparks, supra at 151-152; Baker v Baker, 268 Mich App 578, 582; 710 NW2d 555 (2005).
A trial court’s “ruling should be affirmed unless the appellate court is left with the firm conviction that the division was inequitable.” Sparks, supra at 152; Baker, supra at 582.
“The dispositional ruling is discretionary and should be affirmed unless [we are] left with the firm conviction that the division was inequitable.”
Sands v Sands, 442 Mich 30, 34; 497 NW2d 493 (1993); see also Koy v Koy, 274 Mich App
653, 660; 735 NW2d 665 (2007).
EQUITABLE, FAIR DIVISION OF PROPERTY
The goal in distributing marital assets in a divorce proceeding
is to reach an equitable distribution of property in light of all the circumstances. McNamara v Horner, 249 Mich App 177, 188; 642 NW2d 385 (2002).
DOES NOT NEED TO BE MATHEMATICALLY CORRECT
The division need not be mathematically equal, but any significant departure from congruence must be clearly explained by the trial court. Id. The trial court’s disposition of marital property is intimately related to its findings of fact. Id.
ELEMENTS OF PROPERTY DIVISION
Courts consider several factors when making a property division:
(1) duration of the
marriage,
(2) contributions of the parties to the marital estate,
(3) age of the parties,
(4) health of
the parties,
(5) life status of the parties,
(6) necessities and circumstances of the parties,
(7) earning abilities of the parties, (8) past relations and conduct of the parties, and (9) general principles of equity. Sparks, supra at 159-160. MCL 552.19 provides: “Upon . . . a divorce . . .
OTHER;the court may make a further judgment for restoring to either party the whole, or such parts as it shall deem just and reasonable, of the real and personal estate that shall have come to either party by reason of the marriage . . . .”
1ST, WHAT ASSEST ARE THE COUPLES AND WHICH THE INDIVIDUALS?
The trial court first determines which assets owned by the parties are marital assets and which, if any, are separate assets. Reed v Reed, 265 Mich App 131, 150; 693 NW2d 825 (2005). Generally, separate assets are not subject to division between divorcing parties. McNamara v Horner, 249 Mich App 177, 183; 642 NW2d 385 (2002).
COURT WRONG WHEN IT DECIDED THE VALUE OF THE PROPERTY?
Peter first challenges the trial court’s valuation of the law office property, arguing that because he only owned an undivided ½ interest in the property, the law office property should have been valued, at most, at $104,500, not $209,000. This argument lacks merit.
The trialcourt found that the law office property was worth $209,000. There is a lack of evidence to leave this Court with a firm conviction that a mistake has been made. On the contrary, the trial court chose between the appraisals presented by two competing experts. Further, the trial court was not finding that Peter and Susan’s undivided ½ interest in the property was worth $209,000.
Rather, the trial court was merely valuing the property as a whole at $209,000. Both the opinion after trial and the divorce judgment clearly state the law office property to be valued at $209,000, never stating that Peter and Susan’s undivided ½ interest is worth that amount.
WHAT’S MINE AND WHAT’S OURS?
Next, Peter argues that the trial court failed to distinguish between marital property and separate property. Peter argues that his retirement plan was separate property. However, the trial court awarded Peter’s retirement plan to him. Therefore, there can be no error.
I GET TO KEEP MY MONEY!
Next, Peter argues that his approximately $400,000 attorney fee was separate property.
This argument lacks merit. Documentary evidence shows that Peter received that fee in
February 1995, during the marriage. Therefore, the trial court’s implied finding that the attorney’s fee was marital property was not clearly erroneous. Moreover, Peter offers no proof that the work that earned the fee was done prior to the marriage. Indeed, Peter’s attorney admitted at trial that Peter worked on the case in the early part of the marriage.
WE HAVE MORE DEBT THAN THE COURT SAID WE HAVE.
Peter next argues that the trial court failed to make specific findings of fact regarding the amount of marital debt, and abused its discretion in “awarding” all marital debt to him. The trial court did not err in failing to make specific findings of fact regarding the amount of marital debt.
In the judgment, the trial court listed 23 debts, including the party to whom the debt was owed and the amount. Therefore, the trial court did not fail to make findings of fact regarding the amount of debts.
WHY DO I GET ALL THE DEBT? She's eating staeak I am eating baloney
Peter argues that the trial court abused its discretion in imposing all of the debt on him, with the exception of the debt owed on the marital home. Since the debt at issue encumbered the property ultimately divided by the trial court, we again consider whether the trial court’s findings of fact were clearly erroneous, Pickering, supra at 7, and whether, if we uphold the trial court’s factual findings, the property division was fair and equitable in light of the facts. Koy, supra at
660. Applying these standards of review, we conclude that Peter’s argument lacks merit.
While Peter argues that he was not awarded assets from which to pay the debts, this is not the case. The trial court awarded numerous pieces of property to Peter, including the law office property (which Peter admits is worth at least $104,500), the Ford Mustang, the law firm itself, and his retirement accounts. We find that in light of all the circumstances, the trial court’s
division of debt was equitable.
Peter requests that this Court reverse the trial court’s denial of his request, in his motion for new trial, that the proceeds of the sale of the Higgins Lake property be used to pay the property taxes. Susan agrees that the taxes paid by Plaintiff, post-judgment, should be reimbursed upon the sale of the property. Accordingly, since Susan concedes error, this Court orders the trial court to amend the judgment to provide that the proceeds of the sale of the
Higgins Lake property should be used to repay Peter for taxes he paid, post-judgment, on that property (before dividing the proceeds equally).
STIPULATIONS OF FACT ARE BINDING
Peter next argues that the trial court abused its discretion in ordering the sale at auction of numerous items of personal property, where the parties stipulated to a division of some of the property. Susan does not address this issue in her brief. This argument has merit.
Stipulations of fact are binding. Gates v Gates, 256 Mich App 420, 426; 664 NW2d 231
(2003). Stipulations of law are not. Id. Here, the alleged stipulation was that numerous items of property were the separate property of Peter or Susan. This was a stipulation of fact and not of law. Because the parties do appear to have stipulated that numerous items of tangible personal property were separate property, as indicated in Susan’s exhibit 12 below, the trial court abused its discretion in ordering the sale by auction of such items. Therefore, we vacate that portion of
the trial court’s order requiring the sale by auction of all items of tangible personal property, and remand for a determination of which items the parties stipulated to be separate property.
IT’S JUST NOT FAIR
Peter finally argues that the overall property settlement is inequitable. We disagree.
SPARKS ANALYSIS
Using the factors enumerated above from Sparks, the trial court made the following
findings:
(1) the duration of the marriage was about ten years;
(2) the contributions to the
marital estate were almost exclusively by Peter;
(3) Peter is 52 and Susan’s age was not
evidenced at trial;
(4) the parties are both healthy;
(5) the life status of the parties is that they did
not live beyond their means;
(6) the “necessities and circumstances” are that following
separation, Susan continued to live in the marital home, while Peter resided above his law office;
(7) Peter is capable of earning $40,000 to $45,000 per year, while Susan was a stay-at-home
mom who now has nominal income from music;
(8) “past relations and conduct” included that
Susan engaged in an extra-marital affair while Peter was “not totally free of fault and his
conduct may have brought about the extra-marital affair.”
THE COURT DOES NOT HAVE TO MAKE YOUR ARGUMENT FOR YOU.
Peter contends that the trial court’s finding that his conduct may have brought about
Susan’s extra-marital affair is unsupported by evidence in the record. Peter does not expressly argue that that finding is clearly erroneous. This Court is not obliged to make Peter’s argument for him. “A party may not rely on this Court to make his arguments for him.” Rorke v Savoy Energy, LP, 260 Mich App 251, 260; 677 NW2d 45 (2003). Because Peter does not argue that
any findings by the trial court are clearly erroneous, we find no basis to disregard the trial court’s findings or the overall property division based on those findings.
IMPUTED INCOME WHEN YOU INTENTIONALLY MAKE LESS.
Next, Peter argues that the trial court erroneously imputed income to him without
evidence that he intentionally reduced his income. We disagree.
ALIMONY REVIEW
This Court reviews an award of alimony de novo. Thames v Thames, 191 Mich App 299,
308; 477 NW2d 496 (1991). This Court will not modify the trial court’s order unless it is convinced that, sitting in the position of the trial court, it would have reached a different result.
Demman v Demman, 195 Mich App 109, 110-111; 489 NW2d 161 (1992). The burden is on the
appellant to persuade this Court that a mistake was made. Thames, supra at 308. However, this Court must accept the trial court’s factual findings unless they are clearly erroneous. Moore v Moore, 242 Mich App 652, 654-655; 619 NW2d 723 (2000). A finding is clearly erroneous where the appellate court is left with a definite and firm conviction that a mistake has been made. Moore, supra at 654-655.
ALIMONY,BALANCES THE INCOME AND NEEDS
Under Michigan law, a trial court has considerable discretion to award alimony “as it
considers just and reasonable” in light of the circumstances. MCLA 552.23. The main
objective of alimony is to balance the incomes and needs of the parties in a way that will not impoverish either party, and alimony is to be based on what is just and reasonable under the circumstances. Moore, supra at 654; Magee v Magee, 218 Mich App 158, 162; 553 NW2d 363 (1996).
ALIMONY FACTORS
In making an equitable decision about alimony, the factors to be considered by the trial court include:
(1) the past relations and conduct of the parties;
(2) the length of the marriage;
(3) the abilities of the parties to work;
(4) the source and amount of property awarded to the parties;
(5) the parties’ ages;
(6) the abilities of the parties to pay alimony;
(7) the present situation of the parties;
(8) the needs of the parties;
(9) the parties’ health;
(10) the prior standard of living of the
parties and whether either is responsible for the support of others;
(11) contributions of the
parties to the joint estate;
(12) a party’s fault in causing the divorce;
(13) the effect of cohabitation on a party’s financial status; and
(14) general principles of equity. Olson v Olson,
256 Mich App 619, 631; 671 NW2d 64 (2003); Hatcher v Hatcher, 129 Mich App 753, 760;
343 NW2d 498 (1983).
VOLUNTARY REDUCTION IN INCOME
The voluntary reduction of income may be considered in determining the proper amount
of alimony. Moore, supra at 655. If a court finds that a party has voluntarily reduced his or her income, the court may impute additional income in order to arrive at an appropriate alimony award. Id.
Here, the trial court found that Peter had income earning capacity of $40,000 to $45,000.
There was testimony that in 2004 Peter had net income of $41,177. Therefore, the trial court’s finding is not clearly erroneous. Accordingly, the trial court did not “impute” income to Peter or make a finding that he voluntarily reduced his income. Rather, the trial court made a finding of fact regarding Peter’s income earning capacity. Peter’s claim must therefore fail, and the trial court’s alimony award is affirmed.
DIVORCE JUDGEMENT CANNOT DETERMINE THE RIGHTS OF THIRD PARTY’S
Next, Peter argues that the trial court erred in adjudicating the rights of third parties when it ordered him to pay $20,000 to Himmelspach, and ordered that the Schemm property held by a trust could not be sold. We agree. A challenge to the subject-matter jurisdiction of a trial court is reviewed de novo. Rudolph Steiner School of Ann Arbor v Ann Arbor Charter Twp, 237 Mich App 721, 730; 605 NW2d 18 (1999).
A court lacks jurisdiction in a divorce case “to compel a party to convey property or a property interest to a third person, even a child of the parties, or to adjudicate claims of third parties.” Reed, supra at 158 (internal quotation marks and citations omitted). The court’s jurisdiction is limited to the dissolution of the marriage and ancillary matters such as child support, spousal support, division of marital assets, and the award to one spouse of the other spouse’s property in certain circumstances. Id.
Peter first argues that the trial court lacked jurisdiction to order him to pay an
unliquidated $20,000 debt to Himmelspach. This argument has merit. A court lacks jurisdiction in a divorce case to compel a party to convey property or a property interest to a third person, or
to adjudicate claims of third parties. Reed, supra at 158. As a matter of law, the trial court lacked jurisdiction to adjudicate Himmelspach’s claim that Peter owed him $20,000.
Peter next argues that the trial court lacked jurisdiction to order that the Schemm street property be awarded to the children. This argument has merit. The divorce judgment states that the Schemm street property “has been placed in Trust for the children of the parties. Both parties wish to have said property continue in Trust for the children. Therefore, the children are hereby awarded said property.” A court lacks jurisdiction in a divorce case to compel a party to convey property or a property interest to a third person, even a child of the parties, or to
adjudicate claims of third parties. Reed, supra at 158. Accordingly, as a matter of law, under Reed, the trial court could not award the Schemm street property to the children.
A TRUST TAKES PROPERTY OUT OF THE MARITAL ESTATE
It is axiomatic that when property is placed in a trust, the trustees have legal title and the beneficiaries have equitable title. “The separation of legal and equitable title is one of the distinctive features of the trust relationship. Legal title vests in the trustee to be held for the benefit of the beneficiary.” Apollinari v Johnson, 104 Mich App 673, 675; 305 NW2d 565
(1981), citing Stephens v Detroit Trust Co, 284 Mich 149, 157-158; 278 NW 799 (1938). Here, there is no evidence that either party is a trustee of the trust. Thus, neither party has legal title of the Schemm street property. Accordingly, the Schemm street property is no longer marital property.
On the basis of the foregoing, we vacate the portion of the divorce judgment containing the following two sentences: “Both parties wish to have said property continue in Trust for the children. Therefore, the children are hereby awarded said property.” We further direct that the following provision is to be substituted: “Therefore, the Schemm street property is no longer
marital property.”
Affirmed in part, vacated I
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Saturday, March 1, 2008
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Friday, February 29, 2008
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AND ANOTHER ONE BITES THE DUST
Iraq's three-member Presidency Council has approved the execution of Ali Hassan Majid, a cousin of Saddam Hussein known as "Chemical Ali," said a high-ranking Iraqi government official today who was not authorized to speak on the subject.
The official said there was no date set for the hanging, which must be carried out within 30 days. He also said the Presidency Council had agreed only to the execution of Majid, not two codefendants also convicted in June of genocide and other crimes.
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Associate Health Minister Damien O'Connor said he made no apologies for the tactic to get people to quit the habit that claimed about 5000 lives a year.
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THE FLINT JOURNAL FIRST EDITIONWednesday, February 27, 2008
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WRONG MOVE: I cannot believe that the general manager of the Mass Transportation Authority is willing to contract services through a foreign company when there is a qualified organization in the Flint area. I think the general manager needs to be immediately replaced with a competent executive who understands the importance of supporting the community that supports you.
-Flushing Township
My Dearest Flint Township what are you drinking? Foy is one of the most effective transportation managers in the country.You fled from Flint , when is the last time a rich exile like you was ever on a bus?[trb]
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BAD OMEN: It's an election year, and our elected representatives are offering us some of our own money back, under the guise of rebates. To quote Alexis de Tocqueville, the French politician-philosopher-historian: "The American Republic will endure until the day Congress discovers that it can bribe the public with the public's money."
- Vienna Township
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SIGN ME UP: Tell me where to send a check towards City Clerk Inez Brown's attorney fees for defending her against the mayor's lawsuit against her.
- Flushing Township
My Dearest Flushing Township. I am so happy to sense your sensitivity to good government and willingness to support the best public figure in Genesee County. Hey tell all of your friends to show up in Judge Neithercuits court room on Monday!
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GOP MEDDLERS: How did Barack Obama close the gap between him and Hillary Clinton so fast? He had help from the Republicans. Rush Limbaugh says to his listeners that although he is not urging them to do it, he knows that many Republicans are crossing over and voting Democrat for Obama. I guess they figure Obama will be easier to beat in the presidential race.
-Mundy Township
My Dearest Mundy Township. Obama has closed the gap because he is the future and spokesperson for all our hopes and dreams of what America should be. Limberbaa is the scum bag of conservative bottom feeder, soon those who have worship at his pulpit will hide their heads in shame.[trb]
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BETTER LEFT SAID: Nice article about the Hershey Museum ["Hershey Museum to feature much more than chocolate," Travel, Feb. 24]. But there's no mention of the fact Hershey moved to Mexico.
- Grand Blanc
My Dearest Grand Blanc thank you for the heads up.[trb]
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NOT A GOOD STREAK: The Pied Piper won again in Wisconsin. What has Obama accomplished other than talking about hope and change? Talk is cheap.
Davison Twp
My Dearest Davison Twp who you rather hear the McCain talks of despair and hopelessness as he support the failed policies of Georg W Bush the principal architect of the loss of thousand of American serviceman or the families wallowing in poverty parenting children that are undereducated lacking medical care and facing an impoverished future because of failed republican police. Is that better?[trb]
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MINIMUM QUALIFICATIONS: Since when should someone not run for president
because of inexperience? The job posting says that one needs to be at least 35 years old and a born citizen of this country.
- Flint
My Dearest Flint I too wish that John McCain was more experienced in things other than dating lobbyists a married man and selling out the American people.[trb]
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BEST OF THE REST: John McCain is OK, but too old to be a complete president at this time. It's also time for Hillary Clinton to pull the drapes and say good night. Now Ralph Nader? What a laughingstock. He's simply a needy man who needs the spotlight. The only sane person left is Barack Obama.
- Flint
My Dearest Flint your sublime intelligence is a radiant beacon of hope as the sun rises on the future of America.[trb]
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HOLD ACCOUNTABLE: It took Woodrow Stanley several years to get the city of Flint more than $20 million dollars in debt. It took Don Williamson four months to put Flint $4 million in the hole, and we spotted him $6 million. What rock is The Flint Journal and Channel 12 living under not to report these facts and demand answers?
- Flint
My Dearest Flint.In geology, rock is a naturally occurring aggregate of minerals and/or mineraloids. The Earth's lithosphere is made of rock. In general rocks are of three types, namely, igneous, sedimentary, and metamorphic.... 1. Sedimentary rocks are formed by deposition of either
clastic sediments, organic matter, or chemical precipitates (evaporites), followed by compaction of the particulate matter and cementation during diagenesis. Sedimentary rocks form at or near the Earth's surface. Mud rocks comprise 65% (mudstone, shale and siltstone); sandstones 20 to 25% and carbonate rocks 10 to 15% (limestone and dolostone).[1]
see: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rock_(geology
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I think they are a sedimentary type of rock of an organic origin.[trb]
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PENNY UNEARNED: I find it totally unbelievable that the cost of stamps is rising again to 42 cents. The USPS service is terrible, and slow. Every time I buy something on
eBay, it takes so much longer to get it when it's sent by the Postal Service than by UPS or Fed Ex at the same price. We need alternatives for mail delivery.
- Swartz Creek
My Dearest Swartz Creek, we could all stand on our front porch and throw the mail from house to house until one of ours comes by ,kinda like the internet...da![trb]
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Posted here by
Terry Bankert
http://attorneybankert.com/
Wednesday, February 27, 2008
BROWN, YOUNG AND BANKERT'S OPINION
The video linked here is my response to City Attorney Young on her childish attack on our City Clerk Inez Brown.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hsnzt3Ufy-4
You can link with the button to the right,Brown Defense
What do you think?
Terry Bankert
2/27/08
Or try Flint Talk.com
http://flinttalk.com/viewtopic.php?p=25558#25558