CALL TO CONVENTION?

CALL TO CONVENTION?
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BY Terry Bankert 3/08/08
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CALL TO CONVENTION? CAUCUS MAY BE FIRST.!Will the millions who voted at the public election in Michigan be disenfranchised because of the decision of Mark Brewer Chairperson of the Michigan Democratic Party? A: YES![TRB]

The 5th Congressional district just mailed its notice to convention to pick the people to go to the National Democratic Party Convention. On the same day we see news that our Governor support re doing the vote! How did we get in this pickel.[trb]


DEMOCRATIC ELEDERS ( NATIVES) ERODE RESPECT FOR DEMOCRATIC PARTY

It's time to declare an electoral Groundhog Day for Florida and Michigan and allow voters there another chance to help choose the Democratic presidential nominee. Ordinarily, this page objects to mulligans, do-overs and last-minute changes that erode respect for the rules of fair play. [la]

Q: What's going on?

A: The Democratic National Committee (DNC) stripped Michigan of its 210 delegates and Florida of its 156 delegates to the party's August convention because the states scheduled their primaries before Feb. 5. The candidates promised not to campaign in those two states. [usa]


THERE IS HOPE TO GIVE THE COMMON DEMOCRATS ( DEAD RABBITS) A VOICE

But there is a way to put the increasingly wacky nominating contest back on track, giving voters a say without rewarding the errant state politicians who broke the rules in the first place. [la]

MARK BREWER STATE DEMOCRATIC CHAIRPERSON DID US WRONG! HE HAS GOT TO GO TO GIVE DEM'S ANY CREDIBILITY!

All sane Democrats now rue the day that Florida and Michigan officials decided to flout party rules and hold their primaries earlier than ever in history. The contests that were held were manifestly undemocratic (Barack Obama's name wasn't even on the ballot in Michigan), and National Committee Chairman Howard Dean has rightly refused to seat the two states' delegates at the convention.[la]

Florida and Michigan moved up their contests to protest the party's decision to allow Iowa and New Hampshire to go first, followed by South Carolina and Nevada.[usa]

"The rules were set a year and a half ago," Dean said. "Florida and Michigan voted for them, then decided that they didn't need to abide by the rules. Well, when you are in a contest you do need to abide by the rules. Everybody has to play by the rules out of respect for both campaigns and the other 48 states."[usa]

As Sens. Hillary Rodham Clinton and Barack Obama competed through more than 40 contests over the past two months, Michigan and Florida remained on the sidelines, barred from participating in the Democratic presidential nomination process because they violated party rules. Now, with neither candidate likely to win enough delegates to capture the nomination, the question is whether the two states will end up deciding the race by holding do-over contests this spring. [w]

Now that the race to the nomination looks to be a photo finish, Florida and Michigan officials say they'd like to hold the contests again -- if someone else pays. If they do so before June 29, their delegations could be properly seated under existing party rules -- and could participate as they should in what may well be a brokered convention.[la]

MONEY,POWER AND KEEPING THE NATIVES IN POWER!

Money is the stumbling block. Guesstimates of the cost of a do-over range from $5 million per state for a mail-in contest to $18 million or new elections. But who said democracy should be cheap? That Hillary Rodham Clinton raised $3 million in a single day following her victories in Texas and Ohio shows how passionately many Americans feel about this presidential race.[LA]

DEAN IS THE MAN!

Dean has, again rightly, refused to pay for new elections, saying national committee funds must be spent to help elect the Democratic nominee this fall. It's the responsibility of the state officials who broke the rules to find the money to fix this problem -- and voters must demand they do it. Florida's Gov. Charlie Crist, mentioned as a possible running mate for presumptive Republican nominee John McCain, should be especially keen to avoid the appearance that his state has once again placed a heavy thumb on the nation's electoral scales. [la]

THE PUBLIC SHOULD NOT HAVE TO PAY!

The more important question is how the balloting can be conducted most fairly at this late stage. The least expensive and cleanest solution is a mail-in ballot, which could be sent to all Florida and Michigan registered Democrats in early June, after the other states have voted.[la]

DEMS PLAN A MAKE OVER/DO-OVER!

In an effort to resolve the impasse, officials in both states this week have publicly floated the idea of holding do-over contests -- in essence, newly sanctioned primaries or caucuses or, in the case of Michigan, a hybrid "firehouse primary." [w]

THE INTERNET IS BUZZING

Talk of revotes has produced a flurry of meetings, phone calls, e-mails and negotiations, all aimed at resolving a situation that has become an embarrassment to all sides and an irritation to the campaigns. So far, however, there is more stalemate than progress. On Wednesday night, Democratic members of Congress from the two states met to discuss possible solutions but quickly found there was little consensus. [w]

Michigan and Florida officials are confronting the obstacles to scheduling and organizing new contests and, especially, finding a way to pay for them. Elected officials in both states have resolved that taxpayers would not be asked to foot the bill, while Dean has told them not to look to the national party for support. [w]

Florida officials have thrown out a variety of estimates for what it would cost to run a new primary, including a high of $25 million. Michigan Gov. Jennifer M. Granholm (D) said yesterday that redoing her state's primary could cost as much as $10 million. [w]

GO MICHIGAN!

Granted, this might have the perverse effect of giving the two states even more influence than anyone dreamed of when their politicians plotted to hold their primaries ridiculously early. But it's still better than silencing voters for the sins of their party leaders. [la]

THEY ARE RENEWED! GOD SAVE US ALL!

Officials in Michigan and Florida have shown renewed interest in holding repeat nominating contests, and Dean has urged party officials in both states to come up with plans for how that can be done so their delegates can be counted at the national convention in late August.[usa]

AN THE BEAT GOES ON

The following is a notice by post card of the 5th District Convention which appears to be in control of the Obama Kildee as opposed to the Clinton Kildee!
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CALL TO CONVENTON

5th Congressional District Democratic Party Delegate Selection Convention
10:00 AM Saturday, March 29,2008
Registration Begins at 9:15
at UAW Local 599
812 Leith St. Flint MI 48505

ALL enrolled Democrats are eligable to vote (precinct delegates and paid party members as of February 29 2008)
For More information Please call
Dan Kildee,General Chair
5th Congressional District Democratic Party
810-845-3024
dkildee@sbcglobal.net
Matt Schlinker, Executive Chair
810-691-7869
matthewslinker@aol.com


The mailing address for the 5th District is 6450 Flagstone Court Flushing Mi 48433.
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I would only pencil in this date.

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[la]
The Los Angeles Times
http://www.latimes.com/news/printedition/asection/la-ed-delegates7mar07,1,6591939.story
[c]
Mailed 5th Congressional District “Call To Convention”
[trb]
Comments of Terry Bankert to include all CAP headlines
http://attorneybankert.com/
[W]
The Washington Post
http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2008/03/06/AR2008030604071.html
[usa]
USA TODAY
http://www.usatoday.com/news/politics/2008-03-06-primary-QnA_N.htm






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REVOLT, PROTEST, PICKET, PASSIVE RESISTANCE AND MAKE A LOT OF NOISE AT MARCH 29 CAUCUS. NEVER VOTE FOR A SUPER DELEGATE AGAIN IN YOUR LIFE.....

REVOLT, PROTEST, PICKET, PASSIVE RESISTANCE AND MAKE A LOT OF NOISE AT MARCH 29 CAUCUS. NEVER VOTE FOR A SUPER DELEGATE AGAIN IN YOUR LIFE UNLESS A NEW PRIMARY IS SCHEDULED!

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BY Terry Bankert 3/05/08
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JUST HOW ARE THE SUPER DELEGATES AND WHO MADE THEM BETTER THAN US.

If Barack Obama and Hillary Clinton cannot resolve their Democratic presidential battle, maybe the "superdelegates" can. The states of Michigan and Florida could also lend a hand.[R]

SUPER DELEGATES AN ELITE YOU CAN GROW TO HATE!

Many Democrats worry that super delegates will override the will of voters and their prominence has sparked a broad debate about their role.[R]

A SUPER SECRETE MEETING TO SAVE THE SUPER DELEGATES AND... OH BY THE WAY THE ELECTED COMMON MAN DELEGATES

The Florida and Michigan Democratic congressional delegations will meet together behind closed doors this evening to discuss their respective convention delegate situations.[M]

THE COMMON DEMOCRATS IN BOTH STATES SHOULD REVOLT, BUT HOW? I'M ALL IN HOW ABOUT YOU?

Senator Hillary Rodham Clinton won both the Michigan and Florida contests, and as the race becomes a delegate-by-delegate brawl, her campaign has been working to get the delegates seated. There is growing unease with the situation in the Democratic Party, especially given Florida’s election history, and there’s even talk of a revote in those states. [NY]

THE SUPER DELEGATES SPEAK,WE WANT WHATS OURS.

The governors ,SUPER DELEGATES,of Michigan and Florida are saying it's increasingly important that Democratic and Republican delegates from the two states be seated. [USA]

What they are really saying that they have both staked their reputation as national leaders on the Clinton failing campaign and have done all in their power to manipulate a false victory for Clinton in Florida and Michigan.[trb]

RULES ARE RULES EXCEPT FOR US

Michigan and Florida, which lost their delegates in a dispute with the Democratic National Committee, also could play a role in reaching the magic number[R]

But only if the National Dems cave in.[trb]

SEAT US, SEAT US.... SAY THE SUPER DELEGATES

The governors of Michigan and Florida are saying it's increasingly important that Democratic and Republican delegates from the two states be seated.[USA]

What is increasingly apparent is that the old school leaders of the National Democratic Party picked Clinton as their flower child to remain in power last year. They kept candidates out of Michigan and Florida by intentionally violating the primary date rules of the National Democratic party to deliver a vote to Clinton. Now caught with their pants down they howl that the people have spoken when in reality the people have beEn manipulated , ...by them.[trb]

WE ARE SKEPTICAL SAY SOME! WHY NOT JUST PISSED OFF.

Rep Alecc Hastings..He dismissed the notion that the GOP-controlled Florida legislation would allow Dems a "do-over," and regards the comments attributed today to Gov. Crist with skepticism. Hastings says the cost of such a re-do would be between $18 million and 20 million.[M]

IT’S A PARTY CONVENTION, EFFECTIVELY PRIVATE , TWO STATES HAD UNSANCTIONED CONTESTS WHY SHOULD ANY DELEGATE FROM THEIR STATE BE SEATED?

Clinton won unsanctioned contests in both states, although the candidates did not campaign in them and Obama removed his name from the ballot in Michigan. Officials in both states renewed calls to settle the dispute so their delegates can be seated.[R]

The spokespersons you read here are super delegates who were anointed to their seats long ago in a place far FAR AWAY. Regular delegates are to be elected at Congressional caucus March 29th , BE THERE AND BE LOUD.[trb]

Both campaigns have intensely courted the more than 350 superdelegates who remain uncommitted. A significant movement toward either candidate could decide the race.[R]

Michigan Gov. Jennifer Granholm and Florida Gov. Charlie Crist said Wednesday in a joint release it's "reprehensible" the voices of 5.2 million people who voted in the two primaries would be silenced.[USA]

Whats reprehensible is that these leaderS allowed this debacle to occur. The rules of the DNC must be followed or they mean nothing.[trb]

WE REAP WHAT WE HAVE SOWED AND WILL WHINE AND WHINE ABOUT IT

"It is intolerable that the national political parties have denied the citizens of Michigan and Florida their votes and voices at their respective national conventions," they said.[USA]

These governor set up this quandary the blame is theirs.[trb]

STRIPPED IS NOT ALWAYS BAD

Both states had their Democratic delegates stripped by the Democratic National Committee for moving up their primaries against party rules. The Republican National Committee stripped Michigan of half its 60 national convention delegates, although state Republicans recently picked the full complement of delegates. Republicans are not calling for another election.[USA]

DO IT AGAIN AND DO IT RIGHT

DNC officials have suggested to both Michigan and Florida that holding another presidential contest of some kind would be one way to get the Democratic delegates seated. Both states say caucuses would be very expensive to run.[USA]

It’s the only answer but the PROBLEM is that Obama will sweep Michigan and Florida and win the nomination. The leaders are not for the full voting participation of the common Dems, they are for the continued power of the SUPER Dem’s. Yes its true the party of the common man has an aristocracy.[trb]

JUST WHO CONTROLS THE CREDENTIALS COMMITTEE..THEY DO

The two states also could appeal this summer to the DNC Credentials Committee to get their delegates seated.[USA] Politics is the application of negotiation , intrege, lying and raw power, anything can happen.[trb]
"We've said all along that we hope there will be a resolution," DNC spokesman Damien LaVera said in response to the governors' statement.[USA]

The resolution is that Michigan and Florida must be punished for the culpable behavior of those elite super dems, These delegations should not be seated. Rule violations must have consequences. DO IT OVER AND DO IT RIGHT[trb]

WHY IS THIS ALL IMPORTANT

Although John McCain wrapped up the Republican nomination Tuesday, the stakes over whether the Democratic delegates are seated have grown increasingly high. With only about 100 delegates and superdelegates separating Barack Obama and Hillary Rodham Clinton, the nomination could end up being decided at the convention. Clinton won both the Michigan and the Florida primaries.[USA]

Clintons win IN MICHIGAN happened after the elite super democrats scheduled early primary in both states. The National Democratic party told the campaigns to stay away, most did except Clinton. How ludicrous to claim these primaries represent the will of the people. They simply demonstrated the incompetence of the elite super Dems.[trb]

Granholm, who supports Clinton, said a week and a half ago on CBS' Face the Nation that she expected the question of whether to seat Democratic delegates from Michigan and Florida would be resolved before the August convention. She told the Detroit Free Press that Clinton's Tuesday victories in Ohio, Texas and Rhode Island could open the door to a Michigan caucus.[USA]

Then one should be scheduled it’s the right thing to do. [trb]

"The governor wants our delegates seated. And by what method they're seated remains unclear," SUPER DELEGATE Granholm spokeswoman Liz Boyd said Wednesday.[USA]

A leader would have headed this issue off at the pass.[trb]

But with a caucus expected to benefit Obama and the prospect of 1 million people trying to attend caucuses, there are plenty who say a caucus won't happen. The party could hold a state convention, but only a few thousand people traditionally attend those. The Democratic primary drew 594,398 voters. Obama had pulled his name from the ballot, so most of his supporters voted for Uncommitted.[USA]

OH... NO ...A CONVENTION THAT ACTUALLY MAKES A DECISION IN FRONT OF THE WHOLE WORLD

It's becoming less likely that either Clinton or Obama will have enough of a lead to get the Michigan and Florida delegates seated after clearing the field of rivals.[USA]

Our loss of convention representation should be blamed on Mark Brewer Chairperson of the Michigan Democratic Party and those other super elite democrats that pushed for an early convention.[trb]

FLINTS KILDEES ,GOT ALL BETS COVERED, DALE FOR HILLARY AND DAN FOR BARACK

Rep. Dale Kildee of Michigan said Clinton's victories Tuesday changes the dynamic of the campaign, but he was unsure whether another election should be held as a way of seating the delegates.[USA]

What is your position Congressman or possibly it is to unsafe to have one.[trb]

"We want to make sure that we are seated. That's our biggest goal right now — make sure we're seated," said Kildee, who supports Clinton.[USA]

The super DELEGATES want to go to the party, IT is all about them.[trb]

Michigan has 128 pledged delegates and 28 unpledged delegates waiting to hear from the DNC if they'll be seated. The state also has 21 pledged alternates and 18 committee members who hope to attend the Aug. 25-28 Democratic National Convention in Denver, Colo.[USA]

NOW A WORD FROM OUR SPONSOR
Washington, DC - Democratic National Committee Chairman Howard Dean issued the following statement on Florida and Michigan:

"We're glad to hear that the Governors of Michigan and Florida are willing to lend their weight to help resolve this issue. As we've said all along, we strongly encourage the Michigan and Florida state parties to follow the rules, so today's public overtures are good news. The rules, which were agreed to by the full DNC including representatives from Florida and Michigan over 18 months ago, allow for two options. First, either state can choose to resubmit a plan and run a party process to select delegates to the convention; second, they can wait until this summer and appeal to the Convention Credentials Committee, which determines and resolves any outstanding questions about the seating of delegates. We look forward to receiving their proposals should they decide to submit new delegate selection plans and will review those plans at that time. The Democratic Nominee will be determined in accordance with party rules, and out of respect for the presidential campaigns and the states that did not violate party rules, we are not going to change the rules in the middle of the game.[B]

Thank you.[trb]

CARL LEVIN CAUSED THE MICHIGAN PRIMARY TO BE UNSANCTIONED

Sen. Carl Levin of Michigan, a Democrat who pushed for the Jan. 15 primary, said he doesn't see how a caucus could be held so the Michigan Democratic delegates can get seated.[USA] He should pay for it.[trb]

"I don't see a practical way to hold a caucus in Michigan," Levin said last month. "Given that 600,000 Michigan voters participated in a primary that was held in accordance with Michigan law, it seems to me that it would not be practical or fair to throw out the results of that election."[USA] Hypocrite![trb]

Clinton's Michigan co-chairman, superdelegates Joel Ferguson, called a caucus "a step backward."[USA]

Super elite speak, democracy is messy, you have to let common people have their say.[trb]

Clinton’s eagerness to seat these delegates highlights her mantra: go back on your agreements when it benefits you. As president, what other agreements would she break in order to get ger way? What other promises would she throw out the window? [NYB posted by ewetopia]

Joel Fergeson SUPER DELEGATE said a primary election — so long as it is funded from outside sources, preferably the DNC — could be an option he'd support. The DNC has not offered to pay for a primary or caucus in Michigan.[USA]

You guys caused this mess you should pay for it.[trb]

Ferguson said he disagrees with the delegates being banned by DNC officials.[USA]

Could it be because he is a super elite delegate, whodathunk...[trb]

"The sentence they gave Michigan did not fit the crime," Ferguson said.[USA] An admission THAT scheduling the Michigan Primary early was the equivalent of a crime perpetrated by the super Elite Dems now attempting to save their seats.[trb]

HERE IS ONE THAT CLIMBED OUT FROM UNDER A ROCK

Rick Wiener, a Michigan superdelegates who's not committed to either candidates, said he doesn't know what the next step should be.[USA]

In a pigs eye THAT Rick is not committed to Hillary. He is past chairman of the Michigan Democratic Party. If there is a ruling elite of the state party he is the Prince of Darkness.[trb]

"The DNC created this situation," he said. "It's in their hands to solve it."[USA] Another hypocrite.[trb]

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[USA]
USA Today
http://www.usatoday.com/news/politics/election2008/2008-03-05-mich-fla_N.htm
[trb]
Comments of Terry Bankert
http://attorneybankert.com/
[R]
Reuters
http://www.reuters.com/article/bondsNews/idUSN0561084920080305

[NY]
The New York Times
http://thecaucus.blogs.nytimes.com/2008/03/05/fla-and-mich-governors-give-us-our-delegates/
[NYB]
The New York Times Political Blog
http://thecaucus.blogs.nytimes.com/2008/02/06/will-2-states-vote-again/
[B]
Buzz Flash.com
http://www.buzzflash.com/articles/alerts/336
[M]
MSNBC
http://firstread.msnbc.msn.com/archive/2008/03/05/734454.aspx

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